Hey Michael, Dawn's right. Don't get into an argument on all this here, again.
In order to be a LABELLED CERTIFIED system, you take antennas, jumpers, pigtails, minipci cards (already separately cert'd most likely), RB's, ENCLOSURE, POE device, and anything else that's necessary to that system running, and they throw it in a quiet room and put it through its paces. If all falls within the proper bands for operation as you intended, you get the right to copy that device and slap pretty fcc labels on it and sell it as certified. If not, fix it, resubmit it and try again. Repeat until certified. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Erskine Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 9:41 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT Babble Dawn; I think you are reading the letter of the law and not understanding the reality. An RB153 is *NOT* an intentional radiator any more than the PC you mention is an intentional radiator. The cards which are placed in the RB153 are intentional radiators just like the cards you put in that PC you mention. You are trying to make an Apples vs Oranges comparison out of an Apples to Apples situation. In other words you are incorrect in your reading of the rules. -m- Dawn DiPietro wrote: > Doug, > > You have to certify the system as a whole INCLUDING THE ENCLOSURE and > the power supply and you cannot deviate from the configuration that > was certified. > This cannot be compared to a PC because that is a different > certification. PC's are unintentional radiators the systems in > question are intentional radiators. > > Here is the link for more info on Modular Transmitters; > http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-07-56A1.pdf > > Here is a link to ADI and their certified system; > http://www.adiengineering.com/products/data/FCC-Whitepaper-R100.pdf > > Regards, > Dawn DiPietro > > Doug Ratcliffe wrote: >> I found the FCC document regarding the modular certifications. If >> Mikrotik >> would submit (or someone submitted on their behalf, for them) their >> boards >> and representative power supplies, for FCC testing, and passed (no >> peripheral cards, they are SEPARATELY tested for FCC compliance by the >> manufacturer, it's in this document), they would become PCs and fall >> under >> the 1996 FCC order listed below. If we used VIA, or any number of >> already >> modular certified FCC motherboards, it would all fall under this order. >> Cases are not FCC certified only motherboards, peripherals and power >> supplies. So take a motherboard, power supply and a peripheral wireless >> card, put it into a NEMA enclosure, add an antenna that's certified >> for use >> with that wireless card. How is that not FCC legal? >> >> It mentions an FCC DoC sticker some of us may be familiar with: >> >> Trade Name Model Number >> FCC Assembled from Tested Components >> (Complete System Not Tested) >> >> I have a Compaq Presario 5100NX, Dell Dimension 8100 and Dimension >> 2400 in >> my repair department right now, NO FCC stickers on the cases. >> Part 15 as of May 4, 2007: >> http://www.fcc.gov/oet/info/rules/part15/part15-5-4-07.pdf >> >> Listed on these pages: >> Page 12-15: Regarding labelling for Declaration of Conformity, >> home-build >> and kit computers. >> Page 28 - Section 15.101 Equipment authorization of unintentional >> radiators. >> >> See type of device, class B personal computers and peripherals: >> Declaration >> of Conformity. >> Page 29 subsections C and D - Personal Computers shall be authorized in >> accordance with one of the following methods >> >> And of course, on page 86 the very vague "modular transmitter" section >> regarding "unique" antenna connectors, shielded RF components (I believe >> Ubiquity has cards like this). >> >> I did a search in this document for the following words: >> "operating system" 0 results. >> "software" 2 results - neither of which have to do with operating >> systems. >> >> Maybe this will be dismissed as a bad interpretation, but Mikrotik looks >> suspiciously like a PC operating system, much like Windows or Linux. >> Not a >> modular transmitter device like an AP. I can put a CD in my home >> computer >> and load Mikrotik on it. So how is the device a Mikrotik OS runs on not >> considered a PC? >> >> Just some food for thought; with the information that backs it up >> right from >> the FCC site. >> >> >> >> > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
