Thanks, Sam !!
Sam Tetherow wrote:
I check my highgainantenna and ez bridge equipment tonight and get
back to you on those two. I know the options are there in the
software, but I haven't confirmed with an SA that it actually
broadcasts outside of the US bands.
Sam Tetherow
Sandhills Wireless
Jack Unger wrote:
One or two people have asked this question also. I asked them to test
and see if their equipment actually did transmit outside the U.S.
band. So far, I've received no confirmation that outside-the-band
transmissions were actually taking place. If you have equipment that
you believe will transmit outside the US band, please test it
yourself and report back. Also, to increase your understanding and
make this discussion more accurate and valuable, please read my
recent posts that provide my more technical opinions of the
definition of "outside the band" and "non-FCC frequencies".
jack
Mike Hammett wrote:
Don't a whole slew of FCC certified wireless equipment for standard
PC\laptop use allow you to pick USA, Japan, Europe, etc? Picking a
different country allows you to use different, non-FCC frequencies.
Why are they allowed if the user cannot select something outside of
FCC permission?
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:00 AM
Subject: Not Babble: WAS Re: [WISPA] MT Babble
Michael,
Just for info -
The question of being required to use a software version that
denied operation on non-US frequencies has been hanging over
Mikrotik and WISPs now for several months. Seems this is the last
issue that needs to be addressed before we will see a potential
flood of Mikrotik-based certified products because a lot of WISPs
want to certify and/or use Mikrotik-based equipment. To clear up
any confusion, I submitted this issue to the FCC via email. Here's
my submission and the FCC response:
_My Submission: _
"For intentional radiators certified under Parts 15.247 and 15.401
must the software allow operation ONLY on FCC permitted frequencies
and at FCC permitted power levels or can an equipment manufacturer
submit a system for certification that includes the ability to
software-select the country of operation as long as U.S. - FCC is
included as one of the selections?"
_FCC Response: _
"The current policy is that the manufacturer must employ some
mechanism on devices marketed in US so that the devices will not
transmit in unauthorized frequencies, and the mechanism must be
outside of control of the users. Therefore the method you mentioned
is not permitted."
Michael, as you suggest, it is not difficult to submit questions to
the FCC. Your questions go a bit beyond mine therefore I welcomed
your offer to submit your questions to the FCC. I don't consider
myself "vocally" pushing anything. I just want to see more WISPs be
able to have access to low-cost certified equipment so 1) They
won't put themselves and their businesses at risk of high monetary
fines and possible shutdowns, and 2) The industry as a whole will
benefit once we shed this "outlaw" image and are seen as
responsible business operators.
Please do *go ahead* and submit your questions to the FCC as you
offered. I'm sure that the answers will be appreciated by a lot of
WISPs.
Respectfully,
jack
Michael Erskine wrote:
Ryan,
A few of you are making a lot of noise.
You seem to want to talk a lot about how MT is not certified and
you say "but if it were"...
Ryan, Why haven't you and those so vocal gone to the FCC with this
question already?
The FCC is but a telephone call away.
http://www.fcc.gov/
It never ceases to amaze me how men and women of obvious
intelligence will debate ad nasuiem
about how some government agency will rule on some topic, but
never will they find the courage
to simply call that agency and ask them. Rather they will wait
till someone suggests it and then
after all the debate and posturing, say, "Yeah, Go ahead! You call
them."
What a joke.
-m-
Ryan Langseth wrote:
On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 01:09 -0400, Michael Erskine wrote:
Rick;
I think that your opinion is like mine, both informed and
experienced. I am perfectly comfortable with my opinion. And I
did not get into an argument, or even suggest one was somehow a
good idea.
That said, let me also say this. If I don't have to have my
router boards certified without radios because they are not
intentional radiators, then when I add an FCC certified card to
them I still don't have to have them certified because they are
still what they were.
If you tell me that every PC running a pci wireless card has to
be certified then I'll go with suggesting that a single board
computer, which is designed to be a router, should also be
certified like all those PC's otherwise, Rick, I think that both
you and Dawn are incorrect.
1) drivers for the wireless card do not allow you to adjust
power. 2) comes with a small rubber ducky ant, not a 15db sector.
This discussion has come up on this list at probably least a
dozen times
since I have joined (less than a year ago). MT is not certified,
end of
chapter. Ask MT they will, most likely, tell you the same thing.
Like I said, I think your opinion is like mine, both informed
and experienced. I don't think you, or I, or Dawn, have the
last word in this matter and I'd be happy to take the issue up
with the FCC to get a reading from them.
Do this, I would like to read the next chapter, if they can get
certified though the PC method, I would take a look at their
product. Ryan
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