Could you provide some sort of numbers? How much loss does that 1/4 mile of water-retaining trees have?

The town is basically a square with the tower on the far west side in about the center. It is 1/2 mile to the extreme corners, so there are a lot of people 1/4 mile and less.

Someone on another list mentioned water retention as a show-stopper, but my limited experience had me thinking just about anything less than a 1/2 mile would work.


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham McIntire" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5 GHz attenuation


I have two towers running MT APs at 5.8 with CM9s and 16 dBi horiz
sectors.  Using Osbridge 5GXi's as the CPE, I have clients a few miles
out with non-LOS and the occasional treeline without any issues.

I also have one house about 3/4 mile away from my tower that's going
through nearly 1/4 mile of scattered trees.  It attenuates pretty
badly during heavy rain until the leaves on the trees dry out, but
stays connected.  It's my parents-in-law's house, so they're a little
more forgiving if it happens to drop than a client would be ;)

Half a mile with scattered trees shouldn't be a problem for you, even
with snow/rain attenuation.

Graham McIntire
Verona Networks


On 6/22/07, Mike Hammett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have a 5 mile link where I'm not quite sure if the antenna is above the
trees or not as it is on top of a mast.  That link is on the better side
of -80 for almost 2 years.  Based on that I'd think I'd be okay at a half
mile or less. I figured that with most of the town at better than -60 and a lot better than -50, I could stand to go through a few meters of tree, but
that's why I came here to ask.  ;-)

Based on the numbers on the site I looked at, 10 db of attenuation is 27' of
foliage.  That'd put 20 db at 55' of foliage.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Unger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5 GHz attenuation


> Mike,
>
> Good to go as long as the TV towers allow you to get the CPE antennas
> above the trees.
>
> jack
>
>
> Mike Hammett wrote:
>> Most of my coverage area is open fields, so there isn't much to making >> a
>> link work.
>>
>> I have an increasing demand to install an AP in a small town (no point
>> within town is further than 1/2 mile away from the tower site). I >> prefer >> to use 5 GHz due to the amount of spectrum available. An article I >> read
>> said 1.5 db per meter of foliage or 20 db per tree in 5 GHz.
>>
>> The grain leg is 100 - 150 feet tall. Many houses have TV towers. >> Radio >> Mobile (not counting foliage) says the worst signal I can expect to >> see
>> is in the 60s with most in the 50s or 40s.
>>
>> Safe to assume that most of the town will be good to go?
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
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