For personal use only- not for resale.
And for non commercial use only.

If the test is such a "joke", and if you want to "experiment" then by all
means, knock yourself out, get a Ham (not HAM) license and experiment. Maybe
you will help develop some new technology.
But don't in a minute think that there is any comparison whatsoever between
Amateur Radio and Wireless ISPs other than the obvious.
Some Hams became WISPS- thet really helped the industry gain some credible
experience.  I came from both Ham and 2-way commercial roots, with a little
IT and Voice thrown in along the way.

Some WISP operators became Hams... Probably to satisfy the desire to
experiment.
 
Mike- Hams are not homebuilding or piecing together networks, installing
them in high places and offering their use for money like WISPS are. There's
a lot of difference.

And for Jeromie- be careful what you wish for.  The FCC *could* outlaw
for-profit use of Part 15 spectrum altogether.  The WiMax and Cellco boys
would LOVE to see that, so don't wish for a license unless you really really
want one and are ready to pay 10 times the price for gear plus deal with 10
times the paperwork.

I don't foresee an available licensed band though anytime soon. WISPS cannot
even follow what few rules there are now.  Why in the world would FCC think
that we could follow more stringent ones?


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] fcc committee survey


I hate it when someone says me too, but...    me too.  ;-)

A lot of the things the FCC has are just silly...  like PC with wireless vs.

our stuff.  Why a HAM can take a test any joke can pass and then manufacture

gear himself, but we cannot use piece-it-together gear.  I don't care so 
much about the telco network.  If we get all of the other things we want 
(heck, even a subset) on the wireless side, the telco is irrelevant.


-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] fcc committee survey


>I was going to offlist this, but, I might as well put my foot where my
>mouth is.
>
> In my opinion the top things I want addressed would be:
>
> I would like to see a WISP License like a Ham License. Its very simple 
> in idea but I think it would truly change the industry. Any one 
> wanting to be a wisp would get access to what ever spectrum can be 
> pulled from the FCC, including all the bands available right now. The 
> license would allow us to produce gear in the same way a ham can 
> solder up a radio and be legal. The test would need to include a lot 
> of things the ham tests do, a lot of things that the CWNP. All 
> installers would need to be certified if they assemble the unit, else, 
> the assembler will need to be. They will need ot put their license # 
> on the unit as well as a unit number or such. That unit number+license 
> will need to be filed with the fcc, but not its location of operation, 
> or, nothing more specific then the county/city it operates in. This 
> has the side effect of giving the FCC some hard numbers with out 
> giving away personal company information. This would be best as a 
> retroactive ruling with grace on old installs. I am not trying to be 
> political but if they can give grace to illegal aliens then they can 
> to wisps too, both are breaking the law and both are being productive 
> so both should get the same treatment.
>
> Clearer component cert: IE, what/why is there a difference from a 
> embedded board to a PC or laptop. Laptops ship with built in antennas 
> but no way are all certified mini pci cards tested with that antenna. 
> I would like to see very clear rulings on matching parts. Part of the 
> same, I would like to the allowance of changing cables with out 
> breaking cert.
>
> Abandon the USF, or at least reform it drastically. That rural telcos 
> should not get away with cherry picking while getting USF (I know 
> Qwest is doing this too, just picked up a dozen people they will not
> serve) but its my local that upsets me the most with it.
>
> I want <dry line> tariffs reinstated and <enforced>. Both Qwest and my 
> local rural telco refuse to sell copper on the grounds they do not 
> have to. I think its stupid that a copper company will not sell 
> copper. Personally I would break the physical company off from the 
> services company, but I know I am dreaming. VZ was at least honest and 
> said they did not want to and so would not. VZ is abandoning copper as 
> fast as they can, so lets make them sell it to some one and not rip it 
> out of the ground. If nothing else it should become city property for 
> them to lease to anyone at the same rates.
>
> On 8/3/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> The FCC Committee would like to know your top few issues (3 to 5) 
>> that
>> you'd
>> like us to PROACTIVELY work on.  Things, mainly, that you'd like us to 
>> try
>> to create movement on.
>>
>> Examples might be:
>>
>> Certified components vs. certified systems.
>>
>> Drop the 6' antenna requirement for 6 gig.
>>
>> Expand USF to include broadband services.
>>
>> ?????
>>
>> thanks,
>> Marlon
>> (509) 982-2181
>> (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)                    Consulting services
>> 42846865 (icq)                                    WISP Operator since 
>> 1999!
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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