So?
That just gives the WISP extra incentive to make sure things work... they
could lose their livelihood. Hams have and do install equipment wherever we
install gear. They have gone further than we have in that they have
satellites.
I know plenty of Hams. I actually took all of the practice tests and was
working on Morse Code before I put it aside to work on something that will
make me money instead of just cost me money. :-) I certainly intend to
pursue that again once my livelihood has been established.
I know that Amateur operators have made a pile of innovations.
Just about anyone can pass the most basic Amateur test and thus be permitted
to manufacture almost any device he so chooses, whether its garbage or not.
At least with WISPs, those that are DIY are (largely or completely) using
FCC certified components.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:51 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] fcc committee survey
For personal use only- not for resale.
And for non commercial use only.
If the test is such a "joke", and if you want to "experiment" then by all
means, knock yourself out, get a Ham (not HAM) license and experiment. Maybe
you will help develop some new technology.
But don't in a minute think that there is any comparison whatsoever between
Amateur Radio and Wireless ISPs other than the obvious.
Some Hams became WISPS- thet really helped the industry gain some credible
experience. I came from both Ham and 2-way commercial roots, with a little
IT and Voice thrown in along the way.
Some WISP operators became Hams... Probably to satisfy the desire to
experiment.
Mike- Hams are not homebuilding or piecing together networks, installing
them in high places and offering their use for money like WISPS are. There's
a lot of difference.
And for Jeromie- be careful what you wish for. The FCC *could* outlaw
for-profit use of Part 15 spectrum altogether. The WiMax and Cellco boys
would LOVE to see that, so don't wish for a license unless you really really
want one and are ready to pay 10 times the price for gear plus deal with 10
times the paperwork.
I don't foresee an available licensed band though anytime soon. WISPS cannot
even follow what few rules there are now. Why in the world would FCC think
that we could follow more stringent ones?
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:55 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] fcc committee survey
I hate it when someone says me too, but... me too. ;-)
A lot of the things the FCC has are just silly... like PC with wireless vs.
our stuff. Why a HAM can take a test any joke can pass and then manufacture
gear himself, but we cannot use piece-it-together gear. I don't care so
much about the telco network. If we get all of the other things we want
(heck, even a subset) on the wireless side, the telco is irrelevant.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeromie Reeves" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] fcc committee survey
I was going to offlist this, but, I might as well put my foot where my
mouth is.
In my opinion the top things I want addressed would be:
I would like to see a WISP License like a Ham License. Its very simple
in idea but I think it would truly change the industry. Any one
wanting to be a wisp would get access to what ever spectrum can be
pulled from the FCC, including all the bands available right now. The
license would allow us to produce gear in the same way a ham can
solder up a radio and be legal. The test would need to include a lot
of things the ham tests do, a lot of things that the CWNP. All
installers would need to be certified if they assemble the unit, else,
the assembler will need to be. They will need ot put their license #
on the unit as well as a unit number or such. That unit number+license
will need to be filed with the fcc, but not its location of operation,
or, nothing more specific then the county/city it operates in. This
has the side effect of giving the FCC some hard numbers with out
giving away personal company information. This would be best as a
retroactive ruling with grace on old installs. I am not trying to be
political but if they can give grace to illegal aliens then they can
to wisps too, both are breaking the law and both are being productive
so both should get the same treatment.
Clearer component cert: IE, what/why is there a difference from a
embedded board to a PC or laptop. Laptops ship with built in antennas
but no way are all certified mini pci cards tested with that antenna.
I would like to see very clear rulings on matching parts. Part of the
same, I would like to the allowance of changing cables with out
breaking cert.
Abandon the USF, or at least reform it drastically. That rural telcos
should not get away with cherry picking while getting USF (I know
Qwest is doing this too, just picked up a dozen people they will not
serve) but its my local that upsets me the most with it.
I want <dry line> tariffs reinstated and <enforced>. Both Qwest and my
local rural telco refuse to sell copper on the grounds they do not
have to. I think its stupid that a copper company will not sell
copper. Personally I would break the physical company off from the
services company, but I know I am dreaming. VZ was at least honest and
said they did not want to and so would not. VZ is abandoning copper as
fast as they can, so lets make them sell it to some one and not rip it
out of the ground. If nothing else it should become city property for
them to lease to anyone at the same rates.
On 8/3/07, Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hi All,
The FCC Committee would like to know your top few issues (3 to 5)
that
you'd
like us to PROACTIVELY work on. Things, mainly, that you'd like us to
try
to create movement on.
Examples might be:
Certified components vs. certified systems.
Drop the 6' antenna requirement for 6 gig.
Expand USF to include broadband services.
?????
thanks,
Marlon
(509) 982-2181
(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services
42846865 (icq) WISP Operator since
1999!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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