Well once again I am going to make a statement- I have promised to be "gone" from here- and I basically am- But I check in once in a while and the AP1000 thread caught my eye- We have a lot of Ap2000's from YDI (30 or 40)- yes- all legal and purchased as a system from YDI. We have not bought any other wifi and don't deploy it anymore and we don't mix and match. As amps etc fail (or start leaking) we use our decommissioned stock. Hopefully we will have all of them out of the network some day.
Anyhow, once again the thread goes back to the same subject- Operating legally and the back and forth pissing about this. I will tell you all that for SURE you will never get a large scale WISP to join, support and contribute to WISPA because of this issue. WISPA will always be a collection of renegades and small time operators who are known in the industry as "do what you want/need rule breakers". More and more of you want to operate with licensed spectrum. At the same time, the Clearwires and Tower Streams are starting to use unlicensed as well- What is the difference between them and the typical WISP? The lines are blending even more now and it will be harder to explain to the "industry and the FCC" why WISP's want to operate this way but the "grown ups" can follow the rules? Ask yourself why companies like http://netbnr.net/loc.html?http://www.wcai.com/about_us.htm are not joining and contributing to WISPA? I joined with the intention of helping our industry but was almost immediately nailed with this whole legal operator issue when I spoke up. Not many of us are willing to do anything with WISPA until that position changes and it has to be at the EXEC BOARD level. It's very obvious to all that the board does not want to address the issue under the current rules. Save all the usual BS attacks for someone else-they don't bother me and they wont change a thing for WISPA and only serve to drive more operators away.... Marty Dougherty CEO Roadstar Internet Inc. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JohnnyO Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 11:01 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik as an Orinoco AP-1000 Replacment Ralph - I do believe Butch has a valid point here. If you are using an "Orinoco" AP with your own DIY setup (sounds like you are) - I hardly think you're legal. So why does the pot call the kettle black in this or any other instance ? JohnnyO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ralph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 7:03 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik as an Orinoco AP-1000 Replacment Yep, and addition to being fully FCC Part 15 certified, I plugged it in with a UL approved Power cord too :-P I don't need to justify legality to allow someone to rationalize illegality. Sorry As well known as you are to Mikrotik Butch (even I was about to hire you for some MT Router work), why don't you encourage MT to make some certified designs? WISPA's wish for a do it yourself palette of devices to cobble together and be certified is a pipe dream. The FCC doesn't work like that. If they did, then Kenwood, Icom, Motorola, and the others would already have do-it-yourself commercial radio kits. And you'd be able to go to Radio Shack and buy a kit to build a microwave oven project. How can we WISPS as an industry just blatantly defy the rules. Because they are silly doesn't void them, nor does it give us the authorization to ignore them. Does someone need to get fined and made an example of? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 5:56 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] Mikrotik as an Orinoco AP-1000 Replacment <snip> I suppose you are using a complete certified system with the Orinoco AP? (radio, pigtail, enclosure, cables, antenna) Just for all our comfort, can you provide the FCC IDs on the gear you are using? <snip> -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- ** Join us at the WISPA Reception at 6:30 PM on October the 16th 2007 at ISPCON ** ** ISPCON Fall 2007 - October 16-18 - San Jose, CA www.ispcon.com ** ** THE INTERNET INDUSTRY EVENT ** ** FREE Exhibits and Events Pass available until August 31 ** ** Use Customer Code WSEMF7 when you register online at http://www.ispcon.com/register.php ** ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- WISPA Wants You! 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