Thanks Jack. I know what they are going to say (that I am correct), but it is something that has to be repeated often since the myth is so persistent.
Patrick Leary AVP, Market Development Alvarion, Inc. o: 650.314.2628 c: 760.580.0080 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit Alvarion at WiMAX World Chicago, September 25-27 Booth #409 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack Unger Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 1:43 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Flexible antenna certification Patrick, In an attempt to get an up-to-date interpretation on this point, I just emailed the Certification Lab that I work with to get their interpretation of this rule. I'll post their answer as soon as I receive it in the next few days. jack Patrick Leary wrote: > Mike, > > You are right, but you, as an operator, cannot make the choice or decide > on your own what antenna toi uses, even if it has similar propagation > patterns and a lower dBi. The FCC still requires the burden to be on the > manufacturers to add antennas, it just does not make us go through the > wringer now for every change. I do not know how many times I have to > explain this on the various lists, but that is the fact. The order > clearly says this AND I was there at the FCC right after the order and > they explained that clearly, much to the chagrin of Marlon and others > present. Here is the part in the order that clearly discusses the fact > that it is still the manufacturer that holds the burden: "The > manufacturer must supply a list of other acceptable antennas in the > literature delivered to the customer." > > Patrick Leary > AVP, Market Development > Alvarion, Inc. > o: 650.314.2628 > c: 760.580.0080 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Visit Alvarion at WiMAX World > Chicago, September 25-27 > Booth #409 > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 6:47 AM > To: WISPA List > Subject: [WISPA] Flexible antenna certification > > Many times I've been asked to prove a regulation I swore happened. It > was the one stating that once a radio manufacturer certifies a radio > with an antenna of x gain, antennas with lower gain, but a similiar > pattern and gain characteristics can be used without certification. > > On various lists I have been basically laughed at. Well, I found a > reference to it today, so I tracked it down. > > Here is the text of the R&O in question: > > 8. In order to support more flexible antenna requirements for > unlicensed devices, the Commission proposed to allow that devices be > authorized for use with multiple antennas. Although the Commission > proposed to modify Sec. 15.203 to implement the modifications, it > believes that the changes are better suited for Sec. 15.204. > Accordingly, the Commission modifies Sec. 15.204 to permit intentional > radiators to be authorized with multiple antennas of similar in and > out-of-band gain and radiation pattern. Compliance testing for the > intentional radiator must be performed using the highest gain antenna > that will be used with the device. 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