hipermax = super damn expensive- George I can send you a quote from a reseller off list-
micromax= cheaper than VL. On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:38:01 -0800, "George Rogato" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Only thing I want to know is the price range, offlist if you must. But > I'm sure everyone is curious. > > Thanks > > George > > Eric Muehleisen wrote: > > We just completed a demo of Airspan's Hipermax in Emporia, Kansas > > yesterday. Stutler Technologies hosted us as they are one of the largest > > systems integrators for Airspan. I must say that I was very impressed > > with it's NLOS performance. We tested both the indoor self install and > > the outdoor ST Pro CPE. We achieve 6mb/s indoor at 2 miles NLOS. The > > base station was a 1 sector install using diversity at approximately. > > 50ft up on tower using 120 degree sectors. > > > > Email me offlist if you'd like more info and whitepapers from our testing. > > > > -Eric > > > > jeffrey thomas wrote: > >> All, > >> > >> > >> Aperto actually has a really killer product launching next month in > >> 3.65. > >> I would state its a lot more stable than Redline's product due to their > >> "secret sauce". Its the same platform that is winning carriers overseas. > >> > >> Airspan- yes absolutely can give you up to 10w EIRP legal- so your > >> coverage > >> area for fixed is literally insane- 15km NLOS @ bpsk is possible, > >> according > >> to their calculator tool. outdoor cpe is around 600 or so in single > >> piece qty- > >> talk to wireless guys to buy or other resellers. > >> > >> BTW, I believe they just joined Wispa as a vendor member, for those that > >> sent me private mails asking them to join. > >> > >> > >> - > >> > >> Jeff > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:19:44 -0600, "Mike Hammett" > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > >> > >>> So then Airspan can go further (more applicable to rural markets)? > >>> > >>> If Redline's 15 mbit throughput per 7.5 MHz is correct and is similar to > >>> other products in this band, a 10 MHz product would have 20 mbit > >>> throughput. > >>> > >>> I'm working on an Enterprise level service, so it seems like Redline's > >>> AN-80 > >>> is the only high quality product that actually has throughput > >>> capabilities. > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- > >>> Mike Hammett > >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions > >>> http://www.ics-il.com > >>> > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "Gino Villarini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 11:26 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks > >>> ToRollout New WiMAX Service) > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> IIRC, > >>>> > >>>> 3.65 ghz rules allow 1 watt EIRP per each mhz of bandwidth, thus a 7.5 > >>>> Mhz Radio would be allowed 7.5 Watts of EIRP, 10 Mhz radio would be 10 > >>>> Watts EIRP ... > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Redline cert does not reflect this... don't know why > >>>> > >>>> Airspan certification does get really close to it > >>>> > >>>> Mind me but 10 Watts EIRP if allot (about 40 db) > >>>> > >>>> Vendors should seek maybe 15 or 20 mhz channels > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Gino A. Villarini > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > >>>> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > >>>> Behalf Of Matt Liotta > >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 1:12 PM > >>>> To: WISPA General List > >>>> Subject: [WISPA] 3.65 needs more lobbying (was Re: One Ring Networks To > >>>> Rollout New WiMAX Service) > >>>> > >>>> As much as I like seeing One Ring's name over and over I figured I > >>>> switch the subject line to match the tread. > >>>> > >>>> Mike's comments below are accurate with regard to Redline's equipment. > >>>> However, it should be noted that Redline was not able to get their gear > >>>> certified at the full power output allowable for 3.65. It is for this > >>>> reason that Redline does not believe its gear will work in rural > >>>> markets. Remember, 3.65 was originally supposed to be for the rural > >>>> market, which means either Redline went wrong somewhere or the FCC did. > >>>> Additionally, Redline has not sought to get its indoor CPE certified for > >>>> > >>>> 3.65 because of the power issue. That means urban operators are not able > >>>> > >>>> to offer self-install options that would greater speed up the rollout > >>>> process. > >>>> > >>>> I believe WISPA should be working with the 3.65 radio vendors and the > >>>> FCC to get things fixed such that there will be a greater opportunity > >>>> for operators to provide services using 3.65. > >>>> > >>>> -Matt > >>>> > >>>> Mike Hammett wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> The guys at Redline said their equipment is power limited due to FCC > >>>>> limitations. > >>>>> > >>>>> My point of view is based on Redline's statement of what their gear > >>>>> > >>>> can do > >>>> > >>>>> coupled with the documents filed with the FCC for their certification. > >>>>> > >>>>> The most I could get out of a PtP link was about 7 miles. With a 90* > >>>>> sector, only about 5 miles. > >>>>> > >>>>> I agree that all else the same 3.65 is better than 5.x GHz, only it > >>>>> > >>>> isn't > >>>> > >>>>> because the power isn't there. > >>>>> > >>>>> The throughput isn't there for WiMax compliant equipment due to small > >>>>> channels. If there were larger channel sizes, yes, it would support > >>>>> > >>>> higher > >>>> > >>>>> throughput applications. According to Redline, 7.5 MHz only gets > >>>>> > >>>> about 15 > >>>> > >>>>> megs of throughput with WiMax. > >>>>> > >>>>> Redline explicitly said 3.65 GHz isn't for rural applications due to > >>>>> > >>>> the > >>>> > >>>>> power. > >>>>> > >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> -------- > >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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