When I asked about any gotchas in upgrading from 2.9 to 3.x, Tom Harker told me to make sure I upgrade to 2.9.50 first, then upgrade the firmware, then go to 3.2.
---------- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS > That is cool Travis - Thanks for that info. > > I have been "tip Toeing" around V3.x since it came out and have avoided > downloading it to even try it out. This last batch of RB532's came in with > it preloaded on them is the only reason I have even seen it thus far. I > guess I am a strange puppy and I fit in the category of "don't mess with > nothing or change nothing" if the old way works well:-) - - good thing > the > rest of the world is not that way or we would all still be in T Models, > but > then they didn't really work all that well although they beat the snot out > of walking! > > Good to hear V3.2 is stable and I will definitely upgrade all my new RB's > to that. Let me know if you see some boogers - hehehe as I tip toe on down > through the Tulip patch here. > > I hate to say it, but I used to think the rest of the world (all of it) > was really strange, but my wife has just about convinced me that it is me > who is strange and the rest of the world is OK! WOW - that's a strange > thought in itself!! :-) > > (Med and bed time) > > Thanks, > Mac > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of Travis Johnson >> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 12:03 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS >> >> Mac, >> >> I have been running in production links and GigE routers since 3.0rc13. >> Our main edge router is MT v3.1 right now and is running perfectly. I >> have upgraded about 10 of our RB532's with v3.2 and it has been perfect >> so far. Some of the new statistics are really cool (like the Potential >> Throughput display for each connected radio, running "pseudobridge" >> instead of WDS, etc.) >> >> Travis >> Microserv >> >> Mac Dearman wrote: >> > Travis, >> > >> > >> > >> > Do you know anyone that has the new MT v3.x in a production >> environment? >> > I have two RB532's that were just configured using Nstream and I am >> looking >> > at putting them in a work situation. I too am ordering some 333 and >> RB600's >> > if I can find some tonight. The RB532's that are ready to roll are >> actually >> > seeing 12.5Mbps FDX with ~62/~63 - - >> > >> > >> > >> > Let me know how you fair and I will keep you informed. >> > >> > >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Mac >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On >> > Behalf Of Travis Johnson >> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 10:40 PM >> > To: WISPA General List >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS >> > >> > >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > 5.3ghz, 3 miles, 5mhz channel, 7.8Mbps one direction >> > 5.3ghz, 3 miles, 40mhz channel, 52.3Mbps one direction >> > >> > All these tests are with Nstreme on, but no framer policy. I know >> people >> > have squeezed more by playing with the framer settings, but we have >> never >> > needed to do that. >> > >> > I'm sure more CPU would help some... but I have no idea how much. I >> know >> > even the RB333 boards (same price as the RB532) have twice the CPU >> power as >> > the RB532s... and I have some of those on the way already. ;) >> > >> > Travis >> > Microserv >> > >> > Jeromie Reeves wrote: >> > >> > What about 5mhz channels? Do you have enough signal to try 40 mhz? I >> > am about to replace 5 links with MT 5.8. Does more CPU help on the >> > sending side, say P4 to RB133/333. >> > >> > On 2/9/08, Travis Johnson <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > wrote: >> > >> > >> > Here is a real world MT test running RB532's (333mhz) with v3.2 OS: >> > >> > 5.3ghz, 3 miles, 10mhz channel, 18.3Mbps one direction >> > 5.8ghz, 9 miles, 20mhz channel, 27.3Mbps one direction >> > >> > A more comparable test would be using the new MT RB600 units (as >> they are >> > almost exactly the same price as the WAR4 boards). I will get a >> couple >> > ordered and deployed so we can do some comparable testing. :) >> > >> > Travis >> > Microserv >> > >> > Matt Larsen - Lists wrote: >> > OK, here are some real world examples: >> > >> > 5.3ghz 40mhz channel, 8.5 miles. WAR4/CM9 attached to 29db >> PacWireless >> > Antennas. 50meg one way. >> > 5.7ghz 20mhz channel, 10 miles. WAR2/CM9 attached to 29db PacWireless >> > Antennas. 45meg one way (CPU maxes out on WAR2s) >> > 5.7ghz 10mhz channel, 42 miles WAR4/SR5 attached to 34db Radiowaves >> > Antennas. 18meg one way. >> > FDD 5.2ghz 20mhz channel, 10 miles X4000/R52H attached to 29db >> > Pacwireless/21db MTI panel. >> > 5.8ghz 20mhz channel, 10 miles X4000/R52H attached to 21db >> > MTI Panel/29db Pacwireless 30 down, 30 up >> > >> > for comparison: Motorola Gemini Lite (30meg bh) on the same link - >> 3meg >> > down, 3 up >> > >> > We have several RB532 backhauls in the air, and even with all the >> > optimization we can do to them, we never get better than 20 meg in >> one >> > direction. Replacing the RB532s with WAR2s (266mhz CPU, comparable to >> > an RB532) nearly doubles the speed. >> > >> > On comparable hardware, I have not come across ANY Mikrotik system >> that >> > will keep up with StarOS when it comes to dedicated backhaul. >> > >> > Matt Larsen >> > Inventive Media >> > >> > >> > Mark Nash wrote: >> > >> > >> > 5.3GHz 40MHz channel, 1.5 miles. WAR4-METRO/SR5 inside 24dbi >> RooTennas. >> > Testing beyond each ethernet port. 2 weeks non-stop stress-testing >> after we >> > installed and before we deployed gave us 70 megs one way. The MRTG >> graph >> > looked like a solid block without any deviation. >> > >> > Mark Nash >> > UnwiredWest >> > 78 Centennial Loop >> > Suite E >> > Eugene, OR 97401 >> > 541-998-5555 >> > 541-998-5599 fax >> > http://www.unwiredwest.com >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Mac Dearman" <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "'WISPA General List'" <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> >> <wireless@wispa.org> >> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:08 PM >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I haven't seen those results, but I have seen 12MbpsFDX with a -63 >> on both >> > sides running Nstream2. If we are going to talk REAL THROUGHPUT - - >> lets >> > get >> > real and everyone use real figures. I ain't talking bench test and >> "maybe" >> > if I hold one hand in the air, twist my lips standing on one leg. >> > >> > I mean real world - whatcha getting?? Whatcha see and is it a bench >> test >> > or >> > are you in the real WISP world? :) >> > >> > >> > Mac >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> > Behalf Of Dennis Burgess - Link Techs Inc >> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:51 PM >> > To: 'WISPA General List' >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS >> > >> > 50 both ways with N-Stream dual and Turbo mode... >> > >> > Dennis M. Burgess >> > Mikrotik Certified Consultant >> > Link Technologies, Inc., St. Louis, Missouri >> > --WISP/Network Support Services-- >> > +1 314-686-1302 >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> > Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:46 PM >> > To: WISPA General List >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] MT vs StarOS >> > >> > Mikrotik can do 70 megs or more over 40 MHz as well. >> > >> > >> > ---------- >> > Mike Hammett >> > Intelligent Computing Solutions >> > http://www.ics-il.com >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------- >> > ---- >> > WISPA Wants You! 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