Still is Blizzard. You're talking about a no win situation and then say you'll go to farming? hah!
---------- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scottie Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Metered Broadband > Bryan, > > In most part, I agree with your reasoning. For legitamate things, such as > WOW's maker's (used to be Blizzard I think) updates, their is nothing > stopping them from offering their updates via ftp, but no...they prefer to > offer it via bittorrent that brings our wirelesss connections down to a > crawl. Why? because it does not entirely bring their own network down to a > crawl. Same for releases of Linux. I can ftp to any reputable college and > ftp down a complete copy of any new linux release. Now they are taking > advantage of the final end providers! Where does it stop? Are we supposed > to build networks for Netflix, Youtube, etc... and offer it for a > consumable price? thats where I believe its going or trying to go? If it > goes there, I will resort to farming...its a no win prop! > > Scott > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Bryan Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:51:17 -0600 > >>There are arguments for flat rate and for metered for most utilities and >>services. "All you can eat" attracts people who don't want to worry >>about overages, where tiered usage plans cater to the penny-pincher who >>knows exactly how much (or little) he needs. For a service provider it >>is much simpler to offer flat-rate pricing than metered because you >>don't have to track usage. >> >>But it boils down to *your* needs and your customer base as an ISP. >> >>Ultimately customers need to understand that not all networks are >>created equal, and never will be 100% the same. Just as each physical >>medium has its own limitations, management styles, network design, and >>target customer each introduce variables that change the behavior of the >>network. >> >>You have to look at your target customer base and design a system for >>them, not let a few power-users dictate how you will run your business. >> The (generally illegal) actions of <10% of your users should not >>affect and hinder the (value added) service(s) you provide to the other >>90+%. >> >>The real Net Neutrality concern should be about network owners >>purposefully hindering access to legitimate but "less preferred" content >>providers. Proponents cannot consider end-users as content providers, >>and that's what they're trying to do with the whole P2P mess. >> >>I pity the pro-P2P advocates; if the overwhelming percentage of P2P >>traffic that is illegitimate was taken out of the picture, their >>miniscule amount of valid traffic would fly under the radar and P2P >>would no longer be a problem. >> >> >>Scottie Arnett wrote: >>> Jason, >>> >>> My TOS do the same thing, but just do a search about Comcast blocking >>> Vuze(bittorrent) and see what has been happening over the last few >>> months. First the FCC said it was a matter of them not having a >>> statement of shaping traffic in their TOS, now it has come to that any >>> provider offering internet service should have an "open" network! >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >>> From: Jason Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:31:29 -0700 >>> >>>> Question: >>>> If you are privately owned and have received no federal (or otherwise) >>>> money for your network AND it is spelled out in your contract, could >>>> the >>>> FCC actually tell you you have to run wide open / allow any app? If >>>> so, >>>> where would the line get drawn (Universities, Libraries, etc...)? My >>>> contract prohibits running "servers" or "peer to peer applications" on >>>> the connection. >>>> >>>> Jason >>>> >>>> Scottie Arnett wrote: >>>>> I am not sure what the costs should or will be? But...I will say that >>>>> is where I think broadband will be headed, for sure, if the FCC keeps >>>>> going the way they are headed(since the Comcast deal) with the >>>>> completely "open" concept, such as no bandwidth shaping of any sort. >>>>> >>>>> Even the BIG players such as the major cable companies and the major >>>>> telcos cannot operate their networks very long with the new bandwidth >>>>> intensive apps coming along(unless its on their own network) with no >>>>> bandwidth shaping. >>>>> >>>>> IMHO, I think this is how it should be, a cost per data transfer or a >>>>> limit and then overage charges, just as electric, long distance, water >>>>> usage, etc... have been for a long time. >>>>> >>>>> My 2 pence worth. >>>>> >>>>> Scott >> >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>WISPA Wants You! 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