We don't "limit" bandwidth usage, but we do throttle some things and change out our Priorities.
We give VoIP traffic priority over everything else, Web Browsing then POP. SMTP second to bottom for priority, P2P all the way down on the crap scale. However when it comes to P2P we limit that amount of traffic per site depending on equipment there. Examples: Trango 900 equipment: We limited to a max of 500k up/down for p2p Old Alvarin BA2 Equipment: We limit it to 200k up/down Alvarion VL gear We limited it to 2 mpbs up/down Trango 5.x gear currently is 1 mbps up/down. This has proven to work well for us, but when it was a giant free for all, man, I got paged one to many times about slow downs. (SUCK!) We do keep the throttling pretty loose, because I think sometimes, if I was a customer, I wouldn't want to be limited on P2P, obviously I have the means to change the rules for me, but I don't think of it that way, which is why we have different rates depending on what the site can handle. If your concern is just traffic usage, I would try some more throttling or do what another post advised, send them to Competition. We are not afraid to call people and tell them to cut it out, your breaking the bank with your bandwidth usage. Sometimes it puts it into perspective when you tell them how much you pay per Mbit. I can't even count how many times I've called and spoke with the account holders and they say, "It must have been my kids." I told them I would like to talk with them and explain how this all works, you can be surprised on how receptive they are. I've even invited them into the office before. All in all, I would just get after users causing the problems. -Cameron MIS -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:34 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Metered Broadband Still is Blizzard. You're talking about a no win situation and then say you'll go to farming? hah! ---------- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scottie Arnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 1:17 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Metered Broadband > Bryan, > > In most part, I agree with your reasoning. For legitamate things, such as > WOW's maker's (used to be Blizzard I think) updates, their is nothing > stopping them from offering their updates via ftp, but no...they prefer to > offer it via bittorrent that brings our wirelesss connections down to a > crawl. Why? because it does not entirely bring their own network down to a > crawl. Same for releases of Linux. I can ftp to any reputable college and > ftp down a complete copy of any new linux release. Now they are taking > advantage of the final end providers! Where does it stop? Are we supposed > to build networks for Netflix, Youtube, etc... and offer it for a > consumable price? thats where I believe its going or trying to go? If it > goes there, I will resort to farming...its a no win prop! > > Scott > > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: Bryan Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:51:17 -0600 > >>There are arguments for flat rate and for metered for most utilities and >>services. "All you can eat" attracts people who don't want to worry >>about overages, where tiered usage plans cater to the penny-pincher who >>knows exactly how much (or little) he needs. For a service provider it >>is much simpler to offer flat-rate pricing than metered because you >>don't have to track usage. >> >>But it boils down to *your* needs and your customer base as an ISP. >> >>Ultimately customers need to understand that not all networks are >>created equal, and never will be 100% the same. Just as each physical >>medium has its own limitations, management styles, network design, and >>target customer each introduce variables that change the behavior of the >>network. >> >>You have to look at your target customer base and design a system for >>them, not let a few power-users dictate how you will run your business. >> The (generally illegal) actions of <10% of your users should not >>affect and hinder the (value added) service(s) you provide to the other >>90+%. >> >>The real Net Neutrality concern should be about network owners >>purposefully hindering access to legitimate but "less preferred" content >>providers. Proponents cannot consider end-users as content providers, >>and that's what they're trying to do with the whole P2P mess. >> >>I pity the pro-P2P advocates; if the overwhelming percentage of P2P >>traffic that is illegitimate was taken out of the picture, their >>miniscule amount of valid traffic would fly under the radar and P2P >>would no longer be a problem. >> >> >>Scottie Arnett wrote: >>> Jason, >>> >>> My TOS do the same thing, but just do a search about Comcast blocking >>> Vuze(bittorrent) and see what has been happening over the last few >>> months. First the FCC said it was a matter of them not having a >>> statement of shaping traffic in their TOS, now it has come to that any >>> provider offering internet service should have an "open" network! >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >>> From: Jason Wallace <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:31:29 -0700 >>> >>>> Question: >>>> If you are privately owned and have received no federal (or otherwise) >>>> money for your network AND it is spelled out in your contract, could >>>> the >>>> FCC actually tell you you have to run wide open / allow any app? If >>>> so, >>>> where would the line get drawn (Universities, Libraries, etc...)? My >>>> contract prohibits running "servers" or "peer to peer applications" on >>>> the connection. >>>> >>>> Jason >>>> >>>> Scottie Arnett wrote: >>>>> I am not sure what the costs should or will be? But...I will say that >>>>> is where I think broadband will be headed, for sure, if the FCC keeps >>>>> going the way they are headed(since the Comcast deal) with the >>>>> completely "open" concept, such as no bandwidth shaping of any sort. >>>>> >>>>> Even the BIG players such as the major cable companies and the major >>>>> telcos cannot operate their networks very long with the new bandwidth >>>>> intensive apps coming along(unless its on their own network) with no >>>>> bandwidth shaping. >>>>> >>>>> IMHO, I think this is how it should be, a cost per data transfer or a >>>>> limit and then overage charges, just as electric, long distance, water >>>>> usage, etc... have been for a long time. >>>>> >>>>> My 2 pence worth. >>>>> >>>>> Scott >> >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- >>WISPA Wants You! 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