I am surprised an open source project has not sprung up to do this. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Japhy Bartlett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Nanostations
> Maybe Mikrotik should take a note from Microsoft's book.. Remember > how we went through the whole Apple/Windows game? How the company > that wrote software for specific hardware lost - hard? > > For me, (and perhaps the low-end market!) I really just want a > card/enclosure/poe/N-connector that I can flash with Linux or > something similar; why everyone wants to make their own proprietary > firmware sort of baffles me - why not tap into all of the very good > code already written and being developed? > > Unless you are trying to deliver a commercial, polished product aimed > at users who are less savvy about the guts and want an easier admin. > solution. I.e., Windows and Apple. > > Look at how the PC market converged towards x86! If Mikrotik or some > of the other big firmware companies pressured the hardware market into > some sort of interchangeable hardware standard, we wouldn't need to > "port" every stinking firmware flavor. > > Just saying, I think that Windows is arguably the most successful > business model .. ever? > > And just as a last thought - nobody's really said, "well this firmware > does X better". Is there anything particularly different between > Mikrotik, or StarOS or AirOS? > > - japhy > > >> >> And no, I am not saying Mikrotik is evil. They are just a profit >> oriented company with clear idea how to explore their market share and >> having a really solid businessplan. And just as you will never see >> Microsoft supporting Linux type software, you will never see Mikrotik >> supporting NS2/5. Though it's likely you may see Mikrotik version of >> hardware pretty much the same as NS2/5 sometime soon. >> >> >> >> On 7/21/08, Sam Tetherow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> While you may be right on their focus being RB+ROS. I don't understand >>> why they would not want to sell a $40 license on a piece of hardware >>> giving them a theoretical profit of close to $40. Hardware has to be >>> manufactured and shipped and warrantied to some extent. If they are >>> already writing the software to go with their hardware, why not pick up >>> the extra sale on someone elses hardware at next to no addtional cost. >>> >>> People buying the NS2/5 are doing it from a cost standpoint. Even with >>> an additional $40 for a software license it would be 110 for a compact >>> unit with integrated antenna, dual polarity and a POE. That is $10 less >>> than just the crossroads board with no POE, antenna or enclosure. It >>> would cost another 50% for a rootenna and POE. >>> >>> If they worked with Ubiquiti they would have a chance to own the lowend >>> market and finally have certified gear out there. The upgrade path >>> would be perfect for their hardware. They would sell the AP hardware as >>> well as higher end CPEs for business and backhauls and still make >>> $40/CPE on the cheap end. And the operator has a 100% end to end ROS >>> network. I wonder if they are making $40 on a crossroads after >>> manufacture and shipping. I really don't see the downside to this, >>> especially if the hardware is similar to the crossroads and ubiquiti >>> really expressed and interest in working with them. >>> >>> Well, if MT doesn't want the business, I wonder if Lonnie is >>> interested... >>> >>> Sam Tetherow >>> Sandhills Wireless >>> >>> Matt Ferre wrote: >>>> Looking at the posts on the Mikrotik forum I'd say Mikrotik doesn't >>>> exactly like Ubiquiti. And from business point of view I can clearly >>>> see why. >>>> >>>> Who exactly would benefit from porting Mikrotik to NS5? Mikrotik? No, >>>> their Routerboard sales would drop and as we see during last two years >>>> they are more into selling Routerboard + Routeros package than the >>>> software alone. Ubiquiti would be the main beneficiary of that >>>> situation and that's why you're not going to see it happen. Never >>>> ever. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, 20 Jul 2008, Jeromie Reeves wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>> Oswave says there is no NS2/5 support and will not be. DD-WRT has >>>>>> support. That is a shame since ros/sos seam not to have plans to >>>>>> support them. I wonder how much effort/money it would be to get >>>>>> Ubiquity to solicit a firmware from someone? >>>>>> >>>> >>>> My understanding (this is "friend of a friend" quality info) is that >>>> MT and Ubiquity DID have discussions about the NS platform. It is >>>> not something that is going to happen "out of the box", however with >>>> a 16M flash that Travis mentioned, perhaps it is something that >>>> could be done. I mean, the cost would be just $45 for the nLevel4 >>>> license and only about $23 or so (I can't recall the available >>>> pricing) for nLevel3 plus the hardware cost. >>>> >>>> -- ******************************************************************** >>>> *Butch Evans *Professional Network Consultation * *Network Engineering >>>> *MikroTik RouterOS * *573-276-2879 *ImageStream * >>>> *http://www.butchevans.com/ *StarOS and MORE * >>>> *http://blog.butchevans.com/ *Wired or wireless Networks * *Mikrotik >>>> Certified Consultant *Professional Technical Trainer * >>>> ******************************************************************** >>>> >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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