Charles, We tried that back in January and it wasn't available at the time. Not to mention their new voip project manager began quoting us prices like $15000 because he had no idea what else was out there (vox, etc.) Despite the pricing not being anywhere near as good as Vox, the service was not acceptable to us here in Alabama. Vox's service has been continually above par. We've had no problems and absolutely no complaints with their service. We had a few issues with latency on the Alianza/PowerCode system.
Furthermore, and with all due respect to their platform, I've never experienced a clear call with PC nor a subscriber of theirs using the Alianza service who lives in California. I've had others admit this as well...so I know it isn't my network. The real issue is that we made a choice, we like the choice, and we're sticking with it until we are ever dissatisfied with it. I don't see us being dissatisfied if the service continues the way it is. I feel like it is unfortunate for those of us in this small industry who like choices that PowerCode has decided to try to corner the market with a strategic partnership with Alianza. I really wish they would stick to what they do best, make money off of their software. Then it would be a win win for everyone. As it is, we'll see how the success of this all in one wisp/voip provider in a box works out for PC. Usually it works best for people to focus, instead of trying to be all things to all people. I'm young, but I've already learned that lesson in business. Joe Fiero of NuTel Broadband wrote this earlier, I think he feels the same way....very disappointed: John, We tested with and subsequently signed on with VoX early this year. Excellent white label service. Call quality is consistently excellent, no issues with dropped calls, great pricing ( they offer a WISPA members discount). You can be up and running with them in about 30 days. However, they do not offer a billing solution, but they do provide an FTP site that can be swept by a billing server for call and account records. ' With respect to the number of lines, we are at a very low number because we made a poor choice concerning our billing. We purchased ImageStream routers with the intent of running a very popular wireless billing/BMU that they consider a "technology partner". I spoke at length with the software company, let's call them PC, back in November/December. At the time I was assured they could integrate any VoIP service into their billing. So I signed on with them on December 11, 2007. As of yesterday I was told they can't be bothered to complete the integration with VoX because VoX will not "partner" with them. Translation, they want to bill us for VoIP services as they are doing now with a few others. Somewhere along the way, PC went from being a software company to wanting to be a VoIP reseller and dictate terms to the industry as to who we should be using. I can't even begin to calculate how much revenue we lost in this debacle, but I make the decisions as to who I choose to use as a vendor, not another vendor. We are currently bringing this to an end with what so far appears to be a very knowledgeable billing company that feels they can have this done in just a few weeks, including integration with a BMU. The team at VoX told me months ago I was being strung along by PC, but I stuck it out based on their reputation, and felt they would meet their commitment. Of course I felt I had no choice due to the tie in with the ImageStream routers. I know this integration was discussed a short time ago on this list and there was some concern about all this integration that it would start to limit the choices for WISP operators. I believe this is a perfect example. Joe Fiero NuTel Broadband Corporation Carson City, Nevada So Charles, to answer your question: We are looking for a billing system that will integrate with the Voice provider we've chosen, and are happy with. I have a slight disdain for the choices that PowerCode has made in the direction of its voip business because it is trying to monopolize the industry. I hope it doesn't work out for the sake of the industry. I feel that PowerCode is doing more harm for WISPs in its selfish ambition. In the end, I believe they will find that they have spent and wasted more time and money trying to put together a conglomerate, than if they had done what they could do really well....write software, and remain vendor neutral. Just my honest opinion....I see a brown squirrel, I call it a brown squirrel. John On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 11:42 PM, Charles Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John, > > I was under the impression that PowerCode (the billing platform you use) > has some sort of "VoIP Partnership" plan? Why not just go with them? > > -Charles > > ________________________________________ > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > John McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 5:49 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] VoIP Deployments....I'm serious > > Think I messed up that reply... > > > I think that's great. We spoke with Freeside today about VoIP billing. I > think there is a board member named Matt that uses Vox with Freeside. Maybe > he will see this and chime in? > > Are you using the Freeside Asterisk server? > > On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Jeremy Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Asking for real-world feedback from operators who have deployed voip on > > > their networks, and their experiences with the vendors they chose, as > > > well > > > as their billing platforms. > > > > We trunk with vitelity.net. The prices are not too bad unless you are > in > > an > > expensive rate center. If not it is still profitable, but harder to make > a > > dime on unlimited type services. > > > > We use freeside for our billing and provisioning. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Jeremy Davis > > Maximum Technologies, LLC > > Office 318.303.4725 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wants You! 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