If you have any distance at all to go, and you want it to work, you have no 
choice.
Transmission line loss adds DIRECTLY to receiver noise figure.

----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 6:23 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] coax cables


> Eliptical waeguide is also $13 a foot, connectors are over $200 each, you 
> need a bunch of special hardware to hang it and a dehydrator or nitrogen 
> system to keep it dry.
>
> I just don't picture the WRAP board group buying waveguide
>
> Bob
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Chuck McCown - 3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:49:24
> To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] coax cables
>
>
> Elliptical waveguide will lose 3 dB in 250 feet.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Brownson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 10:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] coax cables
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>
>> To give you the facts.  You can use just about any coax you want.  But 
>> you
>> will have loss.  The smaller the cable the higher the loss.
>>
>> Examples:
>> RG8     lose 3 db in 17 ft
>> LMR400  lose 3db in 26 ft
>> LMR600   lose 3 db in 40 ft
>> 1/2 heliax   lose 3 db in 49 ft
>> LMR900  lose 3 db in 60 ft
>> 5/8 heliax   lose 3 db in 64 ft
>>
>>
>> Remember that for every 6dB in loss you lose half your transmit and
>> receive
>> range.  So with 34 ft of RG 8 instead of 5 miles you get 2.5.  So use
>> whatever cable you can get away with and still have the performance you
>> need.  If you need every miliwatt to be useful then use coax only as a
>> short
>> jumper.
>>
>> Mike B
>>
>>
>> On 8/19/08 9:45 PM, "Matt Jenkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> LMR 400? Are you crazy? Heliax 1/2 is the only way to go!
>>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>> It can but the loss is high and the braid is much less. Stick with LMRs
>>>> 400 *,5 '22@ )+_3 "2,/(:4 32*" 4:+3(
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: RickG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>>>> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:33:57
>>>> To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Subject: [WISPA] coax cables
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm running coax down my tower and came across and RG8/U. Can this be
>>>> used on 5GHz?
>>>> -RickG
>>>>
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