Nope.  When you have about 65 APs up on high ground looking down into your 
service territory and totally surrounding it, you can serve everyone.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brian Webster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update-Tranzeo/Mtik 
disconnectissueOct7th, 2008


> Now Chuck, I have to believe you do a little bit more than assume knowing
> how much you already know about RF ... :-)
>
>
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of Chuck McCown - 3
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 11:24 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update -Tranzeo/Mtik
> disconnectissueOct7th, 2008
>
>
> We always assume we will get a signal.  We are rarely wrong.
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Travis Johnson
>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WISPA General List
>  Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:07 PM
>  Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik
> disconnectissueOct7th, 2008
>
>
>  So there are people that don't roll a truck because some software says 
> you
> may not be able to get a connection? That seems like a pretty poor idea to
> me... we have clients that we had to try 3 or 4 different towers with 2 or 
> 3
> different frequencies before we get a good signal. This "tool" may have
> disqualified that customer, yet we got them installed.
>
>  Plus, how do you know if you want to make their location your next
> repeater to service that area if you just tell them no over the phone? ;)
>
>  Travis
>  Microserv
>
>  Brian Webster wrote:
> On the topic of knowing if the lead was qualified and you could offer
> service to that lead location (start shameless plug), I know of a company
> that can provide you with an inexpensive tool to do a lookup by address 
> and
> give the answer while still on the phone...... As some of the folks on 
> this
> list who already use it for their opinion of how well it works and 
> increases
> productivity and decrease truck rolls to bad installs.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
> www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:46 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik
> disconnectissueOct7th, 2008
>
>
> Great post Tom!
> As I mentioned earlier, we used to give $20. A study by my marketing
> person showed 90% of our new installs were referrals. The interesting
> part was when asked, the referrer said they would've provided the
> referral whether or not the $20 was offered.
> -RickG
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>  1. Anyone have any idea what percentage of customers provide referrals,
>    with
>  a program like "free month for each referral"?
>
> 2. Has anyone asked their customers that have not provided referrals, what
> would be adequate incentive for them to be willing to?
>
> 3. How well do these programs work for residential versus business?
>
> I'm just asking because... Some of our customers have said that the did
>    not
>  refer because....
> a)  its against their corporate policy to give referrals.
> b) afraid their service would slow down because, there would be less
> capacity available to themselves afterwords.
> c) they did not want to be held accountable for their implied indorsement,
> if service for the new referred to company did not work out well.
> d) the compensation amounts were not significant enough for them to extend
> the effort, or track it..
> e) There job was not to be our salesman, that was our job.
> f) They already refer, and they'd already do that regardless of getting
>    any
>  payment compensation, so compensation unnecessary. They'd rather us put
>    that
>  money into maintaining/upgrading our network.
> g) It was unclear whether the appropriate person would get compensation.
>    For
>  example, if a employee made the referral, they personally would have very
> little benefit for their employer to save and get a month free.
>
> What I'm most interested in is.... What would encourage a higher number of
> customers to start referring "qualified" leads.
>
> One potential negative I predicted was that referrals would come in as
> "unqualified leads". Previously leads came in for areas that we could not
> serve.
> I made that mistake advertising residential in the yelloe pages. So much
>    of
>  my time was wasted on leads that would never be feasible to close.
> Just doing the Google map pre-surveys would kill half the day, and could
> burry productivity for a small staffed company. Leads aren;t good, unless
> there is a high chance that the lead will materialize. So this brings me
> back to.... How will the promotion incourage the customer to bring in
> qualified leads? How will the customer understand who would be qualified?
> Thats why I like stipulatons such as.... We pay you X, if you refer a
> customer "in your building" or "in your neighborhood", or "within 1/2 mile
> of your address". Etc Etc.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik disconnect
> issueOct7th, 2008
>
>
>    How is the MT/Tranzeo Beta Firmware working?  I have issues when the
> disconnect happens the AP shows horrible signals from the Tranzeo's
> (-105 to -113) but if you start a ping to that radio it drops back to
> -69.  Is this resolved as well?  If I reboot the AP all the signals are
> fine.
>
> Steve Barnes
> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
> Cc: Tranzeo Support
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik disconnect
> issueOct 7th, 2008
>
> Since Damian has made this public, I guess I can talk about this
> testing....
>
> I have been using their beta software for over 2 weeks now and I have
> uptimes that long as well.
>
> I will not disagree with Damian regarding the mtik patch. :)
>
> This **IS** an Mtik issue and affects more than just Tranzeo devices.
>
> ryan
>
>
> On Oct 7, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Damian Wallace wrote:
>
>      MT has made several betas available for testing.  The results are
> promising, but we aren't running real clients on the MT.
>
> We also have an extremely hacky way of dealing with this issue.  We
> have
> an alpha available for this on a Non-Supported basis.  When this
> feature
> is turned on, you have to reboot the AP when management changes like
> channel are made.
>
> You can get a copy of the alpha by emailing support.  They will send
> you
> a copy of the firmware and a warning that this breaks a lot of ways AP
> send management frames, and that we don't support it.  We think you
> are
> better off to use the Microtik patch since it should solve the problem
> for all units, not just Tranzeos.
>
>
>
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