I'll take that APC off your hands, free of charge.

Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
--- Henry Spencer


On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:54 AM, Faisal Imtiaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I would agree, it is very easy to go overboard and over engineer to the
> n'th
> degree, however if you do that you will find that you would be introducing
> more elements which would cause a negative effect.
>
> E.g. Heat and power consumption...
>
> Coming for the wired world, where only now folks have started to pay
> attention to power comsumption and heat generation as being a bad thing.. I
> consistently amazed to see some very 'powerful' wireless equipment working
> with a 'wall wart'... It takes a bit for it to sync in....due to the low
> power consumption that is all what is needed..
>
>
> Moral of the story:  Very easy to get carried away and over engineer, but
> doing it within reasonable limits is the right thing to do.
>
> ... Just me two cents..
>
> BTW: I have one of the APC redundant power switches, purchased it, thinking
> it would be a good thing to use... But never put it to use... Don't need it
> in a Data center !
>
> -:)
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net
> Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:42 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Power Supply, how to?
>
> Not necessarily - your goal is to keep it powered 100% of the time.  What
> part seems to go bad for you most of the time?  The power supply, PoE, DC
> jack, power company/UPS unit?
>
> If the power supply on the board goes bad you're SOL, sorry.  You'll have
> to
> find another product.
>
> If the PoE or DC jack goes back, you need to get both of them powered.
>
> If you have the power company and UPS go bad find a second source of power
> (generator?).
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
> --- Henry Spencer
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, but the whole idea is to have every device with dual inputs....
> >
> > Gino A. Villarini
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:20 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Power Supply, how to?
> >
> >
> > Just a quick follow up.
> >
> > A quick search of the internet shows up a lot of devices.
> > (APC makes a few different types).
> > These are either called Dual AC Automatic Transfer Switch.
> > Or depending on your voltage needs, you could modify an  Dual AC power
> > supply module for Computer Or find a AC to DC rack mount powersupplies
> > used in Telco's .
> > They are typically modular but big and heavy.
> >
> > Many options.
> >
> > Faisal Imtiaz
> > ----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 10:02 AM
> > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Power Supply, how to?
> >
> > Depending on how your sites are designed, APC makes a Dual Feed AC
> > swtich for this purpose.
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Faisal Imtiaz
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of Gino Villarini
> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 8:30 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Power Supply, how to?
> >
> > We have a reason for this, we design our sites with dual power work
> > ease of work ...Side A and Side B.  Side A is connected to the UPS
> > Plant, Side B to Utility.  In Case Of UPS failure, we are not out.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gino A. Villarini
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> > tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Blair Davis
> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2008 1:44 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Power Supply, how to?
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, you could do this....
> >
> > You will need to pick the right diode for the job.
> >
> > But what brings this on?
> >
> > I've had almost no PS failures that were not part of some major damage.
> > (lightning, power co. problem...  480V on 110V line)
> >
> > If you are having many PS failures, you might look at the load vs the PS
> > rating.  Don't forget the radio cards...
> >
> >
> >
> > CHUCK PROFITO wrote:
> >
> > OK guys, don't LOL, I'm just a farm boy, but...
> > Why couldn't you put two power supplies together into one plug, then if
> > one
> > failed the other would do full duty. Would a diode inline on both stop a
> > possible transformer shorting the other out or draining  the power from
> > the
> > good one?
> > Can that work?
> >
> > Chuck Profito
> > 209-988-7388
> > CV-ACCESS, INC
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Providing High Speed Broadband
> > to Rural Central California
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of RickG
> > Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 8:26 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Power Supply, how to?
> >
> > Why not use two power supplies, one on the dc jack and the other on the
> > poe
> > connection? -RickG
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Gino Villarini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:
> >
> >
> >        Hello all
> >
> >        Im looking for a way to add redundant power to my mikrotik
> > routers
> > at
> >        the towers,  The routers have a DC jack, so im looking for
> > options..
> >
> >        Anything available? Or would I have to make my own?
> >
> >        Gino A. Villarini
> >        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >        Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
> >        tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145
> >
> >
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