Well thats kind of the point of consumer advocates. Consumer advocates are not against WISPs. They are against Cable Cos that deliver less bandwdith than they are capable of delivering to the public. If Broadband monoploies put less money in stock holder's pockets, and more money into infrastructure, they should easilly be able to deliver faster speeds. The rest of the world does.
In many places in Europe, 10-20mbps DSL to the home is very common. The problem is, I can't disagree with consumer advocates. They are right. They should be able to get more, based on the capabilty of fiber technology today. unfortunately, that does not help WISPs. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "3-dB Networks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article > Well if you look at this article looks like most people are getting less > than a meg anyways: > http://www.pcmag.com/print_article2/0,1217,a%253D234501,00.asp > > Makes me wonder how many DSL and Cable shops wouldn't be broadband either > under the 10Mb rule.... even in Metro areas (around my area I don't think > Comcast and Qwest quite get there consistently... maybe in new > neighborhoods) > > Daniel White > 3-dB Networks > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:08 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >> >> That is a TERRIBLE idea. >> >> To chop our noses off for the chance to wallow at the DC trough? >> Please. >> >> It would be far more in our favor if we could get better tax treatment on >> capital investment, if there were easier rules to deal with trading >> shares >> of our companies to investors, if we had gaurantees that we would not be >> mandated to do anything expensive, so we could have some kind of >> confidence >> in our business models... >> >> Those are FAR more conducive to the success of all of us, than to put a >> majority of us outside the standard of 'broadband' in return for a >> handful >> sucking at the taxpayer teat in DC - We're all taxpayers, get off my back >> already! >> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> <insert witty tagline here> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 1:59 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >> >> >> >I agree, and one of my concerns with the coalition, is that defining >> > broadband as 10mbps would be bad for WISPs. >> > Rick is aware of these concerns. Please recognize that being a member >> > of >> > teh >> > Coalition does not mean we endorse all their initial ideas for >> > policies. >> > It simply means we endorse the intent of the group, to work togeather >> > to >> > compromise and debate the best national broadband policy. >> > WISPA being a member of the group is what allows WISPA to influence and >> > educate the group on WISPs, and one issue to heavilly push influence, >> > is >> > to >> > change their viewpoint on the minimum speed qualified as Broadband. >> 10mbps >> > is way to high, and if that position stayed long term, I'd probably >> > eventually have to drop endorsement for the group. >> > But I believe raising teh requirement for "broadband" above DSL typical >> > speed is critical, in order to help get WISP's grants and and Tax >> > incentives. >> > If we can disqualify typical DSL as Broadband (sub 3 mbps), it opens >> > the >> > door wide open to call so many more markets "underserved" and worthy to >> > invest in WISP's deployment of such markets. >> > >> > >> > Tom DeReggi >> > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >> > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 3:40 PM >> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >> > >> > >> >> And which telco is this going to bail out? Money from Congress to >> >> industry = pay off Unions for votes. >> >> >> >> We will never, ever, ever, ever qualify. >> >> >> >> Another headliner article I read on this will redefine "broadband" as >> >> over >> >> 10 Meg. >> >> >> >> Nothing like disqualifying almost the entire WISP industry... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >> >> <insert witty tagline here> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Rick Harnish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 11:20 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >> >> >> >> >> >>> Jeff, >> >>> >> >>> Just to let you know, I am in Washington DC this week participating >> >>> in >> >>> the >> >>> events below. WISPA has signed on as a supporter of the Call to >> Action >> >>> to >> >>> define the Nationwide Broadband Strategy. It was great to see all >> >>> the >> >>> players of the Broadband Industry working together to attempt to >> >>> bring >> >>> the >> >>> US back up to the top of the Broadband Access ladder. It will be a >> busy >> >>> three months while this strategy is defined and presented to the >> >>> Obama >> >>> Administration. >> >>> >> >>> Respectfully, >> >>> >> >>> Rick Harnish >> >>> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> On >> >>> Behalf Of Jeff Broadwick >> >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 1:21 PM >> >>> To: 'WISPA General List' >> >>> Subject: [WISPA] Article >> >>> >> >>> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- >> dyn/content/article/2008/12/02/AR2008120203 >> >>> 164_pf.html >> >>> >> >>> New Coalition Drawing Up Nationwide Broadband Access Strategy >> >>> >> >>> By Cecilia Kang >> >>> Washington Post Staff Writer >> >>> Wednesday, December 3, 2008; D03 >> >>> >> >>> President-elect Barack Obama has said getting affordable high-speed >> >>> Internet >> >>> service to every American home would create jobs, fuel economic >> >>> growth >> >>> and >> >>> spark innovation. Yesterday, representatives from technology and >> >>> telecommunications companies, labor unions and public interest groups >> >>> frequently at odds with one another agreed to provide the next >> president >> >>> with a roadmap for how to accomplish those goals. >> >>> >> >>> That map could include tax breaks, low-interest loans, subsidies and >> >>> public-private partnerships to encourage more investments in >> >>> upgrading >> >>> and >> >>> building out high-speed networks, representatives from Google, AT&T >> and >> >>> public interest group Free Press said during a panel discussion on >> >>> broadband >> >>> policy that also served as a coming-out party for their newly formed >> >>> coalition. >> >>> >> >>> The details of how to meet those goals still must be worked out by >> >>> the >> >>> group, whose aim is to bring more affordable high-speed Internet >> access >> >>> to >> >>> every consumer. >> >>> >> >>> Many of the group members have been at odds with each other on >> >>> whether >> >>> the >> >>> government should set limits on how much spectrum a company can hold, >> >>> the >> >>> use of unlicensed devices on fallow broadcast airwaves and net >> >>> neutrality -- >> >>> the notion that network operators should be prevented from blocking >> >>> or >> >>> slowing Internet traffic. The formation of the group is an effort to >> >>> move >> >>> beyond their differences. >> >>> >> >>> "The coalition is a positive in that it demonstrates we agree that we >> >>> have >> >>> a >> >>> broadband problem, which not everyone was willing to admit to two >> years >> >>> ago," said Ben Scott, policy director at Free Press and a member of >> the >> >>> group. "The key is whether we'll see this group produce policy >> solutions >> >>> that will require difficult choices." >> >>> >> >>> At stake is the nation's ability to compete technologically and >> >>> economically, the group said. The United States has dropped from the >> top >> >>> 10 >> >>> nations for broadband access, speeds and price in the last several >> >>> years. >> >>> The coalition is pushing for a federal plan that would provide access >> to >> >>> high-speed Internet service, much as the government did with >> >>> electricity, >> >>> roads and phone service. >> >>> >> >>> Obama famously used the Internet for outreach during his campaign and >> >>> received 370,000 donations online. He's proposed using blogs, social >> >>> networking tools and community Web pages known as wikis to connect >> >>> citizens >> >>> to government agencies. And Obama has argued for massive upgrades to >> >>> technology infrastructure such as high-speed, or broadband, Internet. >> >>> >> >>> So far the coalition's plans to increase broadband usage mirrors >> Obama's >> >>> plan, but there could be disagreement over deployment, analysts said. >> >>> >> >>> Communications Workers of America President Larry Cohen said the >> >>> union >> >>> supports a proposal by Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV (D-W.Va.) to >> increase >> >>> definitions for broadband to 10 megabits per second for downloads by >> >>> 2010. >> >>> The current definition for broadband speed in the United States is >> >>> 768 >> >>> kilobits per second downstream, which is far below standards in many >> >>> other >> >>> nations. >> >>> >> >>> Achieving that goal at prices acceptable to consumers, however, would >> be >> >>> expensive for telecom and cable network operators. Some in the >> coalition >> >>> could push for laws that would achieve lower prices and higher speeds >> >>> through more wireless and telecom competitors, but that could cause >> >>> further >> >>> disagreement among members, Scott said. >> >>> >> >>> Some have already suggested requesting funds from the federal >> >>> economic >> >>> stimulus plan for broadband deployment. Yesterday, an aide to House >> >>> Speaker >> >>> Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Pelosi was in favor of that idea. >> >>> >> >>> AT&T chief lobbyist Jim Cicconi said the company has moved closer to >> the >> >>> view of public interest groups and Google that the Web should be open >> >>> for >> >>> all users without discrimination of technology and content on their >> >>> network. >> >>> But unlike Free Press and consumer groups, AT&T opposes new laws or >> >>> rules >> >>> on >> >>> net neutrality, saying Federal Communications Commission rules are >> >>> sufficient, and any violation should be handled on a case-by-case >> basis. >> >>> >> >>> "There will be significant outstanding debates that will be very >> >>> tough >> >>> and >> >>> there will still be daylight between the groups on many, many >> >>> issues," >> >>> said >> >>> Rebecca Arbogast, an analyst at investment firm Stifel Nicolaus. "But >> >>> both >> >>> sides are in a phase right now where they are emphasizing how much >> they >> >>> share in terms of their views on what is an appropriate framework for >> >>> looking at this issue." >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Jeff Broadwick >> >>> Sales Manager, ImageStream >> >>> 800-813-5123 x106 (US/Can) >> >>> +1 574-935-8484 x106 (Int'l) >> >>> +1 574-935-8488 (Fax) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------ >> >>> ---- >> >>> WISPA Wants You! 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