As I stated in my earlier post.  I think that StarOS is a Solid Option.
I am a fairly new startup WISP.  I started by expanding an existing
distant wisps network in our county.  They had 1 tower with 20 clients.
I have taken it over and have expanded it and have over 300 clients in a
short time. I paid them to help build out my network with all StarOS for
backhaul and AP's because of their existing knowledge and experience.  I
paid them to help manage the network and we did all the Client installs
and support.  
We had an issue that we were having way to much noise at one tower and
needed to change to XR2's for better filtering. The V2 Wrap boards would
not handle the XR2 so we installed new War2 Boards with StarOS V3. We
got the new boards working in Minutes but then none of our clients VPNs
would work everything else worked great.  Then the engineer for my
supplier quit so I was the new engineer forced to troubleshoot these
problems myself. Yes I was new to StarOS but have been a computer
specialist and network installer for 15 years. I spent 3 weeks on the
StarOS support forum Trying everything they told me.  I change client
CPE 3 times, tried a VDS setup, and endured being told by the
programmers/forum support to go out of business and let a real company
take over my clients.  That was when I said screw them and had tower
climber come back and put in Mikrotik AP boards. Put the original CPE
back at the clients and they were up and going in minutes. Yes I have
had to deal with the Mikrotik/Tranzeo disconnect issue but that has now
been resolved.  They just work and since then all my APs have been
Mikrotik.  I love winbox I love the layout.  We have stayed with StarOS
War boards for backhaul.

Those are my experiences.  Again if you are a old command line guy and
love scripting then StarOS maybe your bag.  I am a GUI kind of Guy. MT
are just easier and I have so many more people I can call for support
any day.  With StarOS NOT ONE.    

Steve Barnes
RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 3:01 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Where is StarOS?

Looking at this from an outside point of view I'm awfully confused on
the
simplicity or complexity of learning StarOS.

We have both ends of the poles as well as a middle ground - very easy to
very hard.  Would those of you who stated their opinion on the
difficulty
level mind sharing their other network gear experience, please?

This is very very valuable information -- "But to go full speed, the WDS
Bridging config used 50% more processing power to pass the same amount
of
traffic."  Thanks!


Josh Luthman
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Direct: 937-552-2343
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--- Henry Spencer


On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 2:42 AM, Tom DeReggi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> I agree. I also say that StarOS's support is actually pretty good for
> manufacturer provided support.  (They do not have as large a channel
of
> qualified third pary consultants like MT does).
> It means alot when the person writing code is also the person
responding to
> End User List support request.
> The beauty of StarOS is its simplicity and ease. Its a fine flatform
that
> we
> have used often. (I'd argue some of the best drivers, allthough I'm
sure
> Nstreme lovers would argue otherwise :-)
>
> Recently they have had some issues with bad batches of failing mPCI
cards,
> which has been a pain, but that is not a reflection of the software.
> We actually have been very successful with Bridging StarOS PtPs. What
we
> learned, (with assitance from another local WISP) was that WDS
Bridging was
> able to perform as well as routing configs, as long as there was
enough CPE
> power. But to go full speed, the WDS Bridging config used 50% more
> processing power to pass the same amount of traffic.
>
> One thing I don't like about StarOS, is its never really clear what
power
> the cards trasmit at when set to a specifc setting. I think MT does a
> better
> job at that.
>
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 11:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Where is StarOS?
>
>
> >I have to disagree with the below.
> >
> > There's a short, very steep curve at the bottom, but it's not as bad
as
> > one
> > might think from his description.
> >
> > Compared to Mikrotik, it is the model of simplicity.
> >
> > I have used it for the vast majority of everything, from backhauls
to
> ap's
> > to clients, and I have it deployed on 2.4, 5ghz, and 900 mhz.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > <insert witty tagline here>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 6:36 AM
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Where is StarOS?
> >
> >
> >>
> >> StarOS is a solid environment, but you have to commit yourself to
making
> >> it work.  Very hard for a startup company to just pick it up and
install
> >> it.  You have a huge learning curve.  The other thing I saw was
that
> >> version changes are huge.  When going from a V2 OS setup to a V3,
There
> >> were huge changes in the OS that took lots of testing and many
> >> adjustments to our system.
> >
> >
> >
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