That's correct.  Not required if there is a cage around the ladder. I 
would still use one though





3-dB Networks wrote:
> I'll confirm that... the cage is supposed to prevent you from actually
> falling... so it is consider fall restraint and no other protection is
> technically needed (although I have used a harness and lanyards on them
> before because I didn't trust the cage and I had to have it on at the top).
>
> Depending on if there is railing at the top you might not need a harness
> there either... but it wouldn't hurt.
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networks
> http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 7:14 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
>
> I believe a cage is an acceptable OSHA fall restraint.  This was
> reviewed during my recent ComTrain class in Orlando.  The only issue is
> if you get on the platform, you have no fall arrest and thus you are
> supposed to wear a harness.  
>
>  
>
> I myself don't do 100% tie off going up a cage, but I do when I get to
> the top.
>
>  
>
> Chuck
>
>  
>
>  
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 9:05 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
>
>  
>
> What do you guys do on elevator/grain legs that have cages around them.
> Usually it's like a 100ft ladder.
>
> Brian
>
> Chuck McCown wrote: 
>
> I used to free climb towers.  Some of them had so much crap on them it
> was 
> the only way to do it (unless you had two belts... perish the thought).
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "3-dB Networks" <wi...@3-db.net> <mailto:wi...@3-db.net> 
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> 
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
>  
>  
>   
>
>       And 15 years ago most people climbed towers freestyle... all
> this safety
>       gear is still relatively new isn't it
>        
>       Daniel White
>       3-dB Networks
>       http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>        
>        
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>       Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>       Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:50 AM
>       To: WISPA General List
>       Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
>        
>       Back in the day, we climbed wooden poles with nothing other than
> our hooks
>       and hands.  Once you got up, then you would throw the one single
> belt 
>       around
>        
>       the pole.  Most of the time the drop was between 20 and 30 feet.
> Enough 
>       to
>       hurt you pretty bad but probably not kill you.  I "burned" one
> pole one
>       time.  Torn shirt, splinters in my arms.  Funny how quick you
> can hug a 
>       pole
>        
>       when you hook hits a knot in the pole.  (The reason it happened
> was I was
>       talking to and showing off for a former girlfriend).  In any
> event, it was
>       the preferred way of climbing.  Much quicker and easier, and
> actually, if
>       the pole was nice and soft, was very safe.
>       ----- Original Message ----- 
>       From: "George Rogato" <wi...@oregonfast.net>
> <mailto:wi...@oregonfast.net> 
>       To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org> 
>       Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:12 AM
>       Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
>        
>        
>           
>
>               When you climb, do you only use one lanyard to tie off
> with?
>               Does this mean every time you unclip your lanyard to
> move it  that you
>               are then not tied off at all?
>                
>                
>               3-dB Networks wrote:
>                     
>
>                       Well I don't tie off in two places when I'm
> climbing... but when I am in
>                       a
>                       position I am going to be working at I tie off
> in two different places
>                       just
>                       in case... because you never know what might
> happen.
>                        
>                       Daniel White
>                       3-dB Networks
>                       http://www.3dbnetworks.com
>                        
>                       -----Original Message-----
>                       From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>                       Behalf Of Josh Luthman
>                       Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 8:52 AM
>                       To: dmburg...@linktechs.net; WISPA General List
>                       Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower accident
>                        
>                       When climbing how many think "let's tie off in
> two places because this
>                       first piece of angle iron is going to fall off"?
>                        
>                       On 1/6/09, Dennis Burgess - Linktechs.net
> <dmburg...@linktechs.net> <mailto:dmburg...@linktechs.net> 
>                       wrote:
>                               
>
>                               Not to say thats not right.  The whole
> point of the Darwin awards was
>                               that the people who died have died in
> the most stupidest way, that they
>                               did the entire human population a favor
> by eliminating themselves from
>                               the gene pool.  There is a movie even on
> it.    Like the guy who
>                               strapped a Jato Rocket to his Chevy, the
> guy who was so cheap, he got
>                               his hand stuck in the soda machine and
> while trying to free it, it feel
>                               over on him.  ETC.  Its on netflix
> instant streaming.
>                                
>                               ------------------------------
>                               * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik
> Certified Trainer
>                               WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
> <http://www.wispa.org/> <http://www.wispa.org/> 
>                               Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik &
> WISP Support Services*
>                               *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*:
> http://www.linktechs.net
>                               <http://www.linktechs.net/>
> <http://www.linktechs.net/> 
>                                
>                               */ Link Technologies, Inc is offering
> LIVE Mikrotik On-Line Training
>       
> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp>
> <http://www.linktechs.net/onlinetraining.asp> /*
>                                
>                                
>                                
>                               George Rogato wrote:
>                                         
>
>                               Very sad indeed.
>                               I don't think they should be giving
> awards away for incidents when
>                               people die at work. Even if the person
> made a mistake like that.
>                               It was not funny to me at all.
>                                
>                               But some have a weird sense of humor.
>                               Me, I see no humor in a death or falling
> off a tower
>                                
>                                
>                               Blair Davis wrote:
>                                
>                                           
>
>                               Tower accident...
>                                
>       
> http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2008-20.html
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