Hi,

Mikrotik has this same ability, but using their Winbox GUI. I can right-click on any connected Mikrotik device in the list and connect directly (even if it doesn't have an IP address on it at all). And let's not forget the all powerful Torch utility that is built in to every Mikrotik device. If you have never seen or used it, it is probably the single most important "feature" available on Mikrotik.

Travis
Microserv


Mark Nash wrote:
I agree... Just put one up and try it.  Don't be afraid of the learning 
curve.  The performance and flexibility is outstanding.

Also, there's alot to be said about NOT having a web interface.  I can't 
tell you how many times I've done this:

1.  Realized I screwed up the gateway address or IP address on the CPE.
2.  ssh into the AP, put and IP address on the wireless interface that 
client is associated with, ssh TO the client FROM the AP (not from my 
workstation).
3.  Been on my merry way and not have had a truck roll.

We use methods like these to prevent truck rolls over & over again.

I wish that the other, mainstream product manufacturers would get a clue 
about this ability.  You can essentially move about your network using ssh, 
hopping from one device to another until you can reach the device you want. 
You can ssh from your computer or PDA to your border router, then ssh from 
there to wherever on your network you want to go.

Also with this method, it is possible to take a brand new AP to a tower 
site, set to defaults (with default IP address) and have the guys back at 
the office reach it and configure it.  VERY POWERFUL!!!!!!!!!!

I say let go of the web interface.  I did and I'm glad I did.  My name is 
Mark and I'm an ssh junkie... ;)

Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78 Centennial Loop
Suite E
Eugene, OR 97401
541-998-5555
541-998-5599 fax
http://www.unwiredwest.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "CHUCK PROFITO" <cprof...@cv-access.com>
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount


  
Is is one heck of a product, it just has a learning curve, and is never on
the 'bleeding edege', and since everybody knows Lonnie's' service
limitations, most users help new users a lot.  And I might add, you are 
not
locked into only Star OS for SU's.  Short range we have used nanos and now
bullets and other boards, business customers still get Star to Star.  You
are not locked into a Mfg. And you can tailor the tower sites to fill the
needs of the environment, and the Star OS tools are amazing. If you have a
new tower or small repeater site to put up, it may be a great time for you
to learn about it.

Chuck Profito
209-988-7388
CV-ACCESS, INC
cprof...@cv-access.com
Providing High Speed Broadband
to Rural Central California
-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 9:51 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

Boy I tell ya what. StarOS was looking like a hell-uv-a great product back
in the days of the Mikrotik/Tranzeo reconnect issues....

Kurt Fankhauser
WAVELINC
P.O. Box 126
Bucyrus, OH 44820
419-562-6405
www.wavelinc.com


-----Original Message-----
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Nash
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 12:22 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount

I'll chime in and say:

1. Great product.  Great performance
2. Forums support is hit and miss.  I've read alot of the forum articles 
and

there seems to be alot of arrogance and opinionated views there.
3. I have bad units that Freespace Systems (their US distributor) has had
for months.  When I inquired about them a few weeks ago, I got the answer
"Our JTAG programming system is not working".

So, overall... Good product, very usable, customer service suffers 
therefore

we suffer.  If you can handle dealing with things on your own or in the
forums, it's very powerful.

Mark Nash
UnwiredWest
78 Centennial Loop, Suite E
Eugene, OR 97401
http://www.unwiredwest.com
541-998-5555
541-998-5599 fax

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Rogato" <wi...@oregonfast.net>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] StarOS/Valemount


    
Jerry
There is a lot of products out there now.

Quite a few are members of wispa and I don't want to give a more
favorable endorsement of one of the other.

I see a lot of wisps happy with the products they use and thats a great
thing. I think there is no better time as up till now for choices in
products that actually work reliably right out of the box.
But, I don't believe there is a best and the rest worse, I think it's
the product that fits your business. And a different product for each
specific need.

Having said all that, I use Star and have no issues with it.

The upgrade software versions that some one else mentioned, is what you
expect for a product that never stops trying to make itself better.
I have systems of star from 6 years back working flawless and systems
all the way up to the last version working that are ultra stable.
The latest version in beta 1.4.x is too new for me to mess with. But
when it gets to maturity, I will probably upgrade to it.

The newest versions have the most advanced features. Those features when
added have to have the bugs worked out to get to stable. Only way that
happens is releasing a broken product and letting the testers find the
problems, so they can fix them.

Support is all on the forums, and really, if you are used to programing
a radio and a router you should have no problems programing and
configuring a star ap. You just have to be familiar with routing.

If a person is not familiar with configuring a router then they most
likely will run into problems and need forum help.

The Star-os guys are there for feedback on real issues and bugs and
deficiencies in their product.
Helping people figure out how to make to radios talk to each other or
config ospf bgp or something like that is above and beyond the
manufacturer's responsibility.

They do offer advice and help and I've seen countless times where they
have personally logged into their wisps systems to help them out.

Some of the very best support comes from the other users on the forums.

I don't sell anything and I don't make anything from giving this
positive feedback.

I just hate to see the wrong opinion be touted about a good product that
many of us use.

George



Jerry Richardson wrote:
      
Comments/experiences please?

This product appears to be a bit more refined than some other solutions
and as a real manufacturer there is real support rather than having to
pay for it. Plus it appears to be FCC certified with a number of
antennas


Jerry Richardson
VP Operations
925-260-4119
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