Thanks!

Greg
On Feb 14, 2009, at 10:16 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:

> I STRONGLY suggest you put email at 2 if voip is going to be 1.  DNS  
> can
> stay at 1, though.  You don't need jitter every time someone sends or
> receives an email message.
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> On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 7:32 AM, <os10ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I put dns, email (ports 25, 110, 143, 465, 587, 993, 995) and voip
>> (sip, h323, skype) at the top or maybe email just below voip and dns;
>> web ssl and uncategorized in the middle of the range; and p2p at the
>> bottom.
>>
>> Greg
>> On Feb 13, 2009, at 11:09 PM, RickG wrote:
>>
>>> Since we're on the subject, and RouterOS, what priorities do you put
>>> on your traffic? Web, pop3, smtp, dns, icmp, ssl, ftp, snmp, etc...
>>> -RickG
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Dennis Burgess
>>> <dmburg...@linktechs.net> wrote:
>>>> RouterOS can identify Skype at layer 7 as well. .
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>>>> os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>> The problem I'm having is Skype is not impossible to detect, but
>>>>> it is
>>>>> difficult and some QoS mechanisms miss it because it's designed to
>>>>> be
>>>>> hard to detect and stop so it can slip out networks where the  
>>>>> admin
>>>>> tries to block IM apps. The better network security devices and
>>>>> detect
>>>>> and filter or QoS it. But Skype doesn't use TOS or other QoS
>>>>> prioritizing bits and it greatly varies the ports it uses in an
>>>>> effort
>>>>> to not reveal itself. It's really quite amazing, if you have an
>>>>> internet connection but you have a DNS issue (no DNS info being
>>>>> propagated by DHCP for example) it will still find it's way out  
>>>>> and
>>>>> connect. It's one quick indication of a good network with bad DNS.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another problem is the newer P2P apps do likewise (random ports,
>>>>> nondescript packets/data) in an effort to prevent ISP operators  
>>>>> from
>>>>> blocking or limiting it. So it's a continual game of cat and mouse
>>>>> between the program authors and the net admin folks trying to  
>>>>> detect
>>>>> and control these things.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 13, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Eric Rogers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Have you done any packet captures?  If it is a small site, you
>>>>>> might
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> able to look at the TOS bit and prioritize accordingly.  If you
>>>>>> see a
>>>>>> DSCP (TOS) of 46, I assume it is VoIP and tag it for queues.  In
>>>>>> Mikrotik, there is a "connection type" option, and SIP is one of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> options.  I also tag that one and set it to VoIP for the QoS  
>>>>>> rules.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It gets most traffic, but don't know about Skype.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eric
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-
>>>>>> boun...@wispa.org]
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of os10ru...@gmail.com
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2009 8:18 AM
>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] RouterOS x86 for Skype QoS?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone have experience using RouterOS (on RouterBoard or
>>>>>> x86) for
>>>>>> doing Skype QoS? I've been trying many different Linux based
>>>>>> servers
>>>>>> (ZeroShell, pfsense, Endian, ClarkConnect specifically for
>>>>>> achieving
>>>>>> good QoS with Skype - more specifically to keep the P2P stuff  
>>>>>> from
>>>>>> killing Skype - and so far nothing is performing as well as  
>>>>>> little
>>>>>> router with Tomato firmware and it's QoS. The problem is having  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> layer 7 sniffer properly detect and categorize Skype and
>>>>>> uTorrent. I'm
>>>>>> getting ready to try RouterOS (x86) and Wolverine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does anyone have any success stories?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>
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