Don't drink the Mikrotik kool-aid just yet.   You should probably give 
some consideration to StarOS.   StarOS has an excellent industry 
standard mesh routing protocol built in - OLSR - and the popular X4000 
platform is very low cost (~$350 or so in a four radio configuration).  

I tried Mikrotik and went back to StarOS because I saw much better 
performance and maintainability for the wireless networks that I design 
and operate.   Actual StarOS documentation is kind of sparse, but it 
uses a lot of standard Linux packages (OSLR, OSPF, quagga, cbq, 
iptables) that are well documented.

Unfortunately, StarOS has not done a very good job of getting people 
trained or setting up good relationships with vendors, so you don't hear 
about it as much any more.   For what I do, it is better than Mikrotik 
and I'm very happy with it.

Matt Larsen
mlar...@inventivemedia.net


os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
> Mr. Burgess and the others who responded - thanks!
>
> I just downloaded Winbox and I'll be trying it with the x86 version on  
> an old PC first.
>
> Mikrotik seems inevitable if one's network progresses beyond the  
> something very small and simple. Thanks for the push!
>
> Greg
>
> On Feb 17, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
>
>   
>> The winbox interface will do everything you need in the mesh setup.   
>> If
>> you want a turn key solution, its not what you are going to use. I can
>> see that as you want something you plug in and it does magic,  
>> maybe.  lol.
>>
>> There is no scripting that is needed in mikrotik, and like I said, you
>> can use Winbox for all configuration changes.  The web interface is  
>> not
>> the way to go at all.    There is a on-line Wiki, and a manual on-line
>> that will tell you what you need to know, but you have to know how to
>> implement it.  its not "paste it in" and magic happens.
>>
>> As far as making the leap, man I don't think so.  Eje I am sure would
>> agree there?
>>
>> * -----------------------------------------------------------
>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
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>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
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>> os10ru...@gmail.com wrote:
>>     
>>> Mr. Burgess,
>>>
>>>     What frightens me about taking the leap into Mikrotik is it appears
>>> the web interface is of no use in the advanced configuration and it
>>> sounds like one must get heavily into the CLI and scripting. I don't
>>> see an online repository of scripts for programming or even a highly
>>> detailed help/wiki online. I'm guessing too many people are making  
>>> too
>>> much money doing their Mikrotik training to give it away for free. So
>>> because of the apparently steep learning curve I'm leery to make the
>>> leap. The more easily configurable (and less powerful) solutions such
>>> as Ubiquiti look more appealing to me at this point.
>>>
>>>     Would you disagree with my perspective? Is making the leap not that
>>> bad?
>>>
>>> Greg
>>> On Feb 17, 2009, at 10:21 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Ya, don't know why ya don't want a MT solution.  Been there done  
>>>> that
>>>> and it works :)
>>>>
>>>> * -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
>>>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org <http://www.wispa.org/>
>>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>>>> WISPA Vendor Member*
>>>> *Office*: 314-735-0270 *Website*: http://www.linktechs.net
>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/>
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>>>> e...@wisp-router.com wrote:
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>>>>         
>>>>> MT and a consultant ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> /me laughing while running for cover
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@velociter.net>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:13:03
>>>>> To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Mesh just for kicks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking to deploy a small mesh network downtown in a small city
>>>>> just for kicks.  Low budget ($4k for ~10 nodes) - just want to get
>>>>> my feet wet and have some fun.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd charge for the service if it was easy enough to do and it
>>>>> worked good enough to justify a cost, otherwise free.  Was hoping
>>>>> there is was a turn-key solution (PLEASE don't suggest Mikrotik - I
>>>>> could ask for a recommendation on how to remove chest hair and
>>>>> someone will mention MT).  Anyhow, turn-key like Meraki advertises
>>>>> would be cool.  How about the Pico2HP - is there a firmware that
>>>>> works on those that could mesh?  Very new to mesh - thanks in
>>>>> advance.
>>>>>
>>>>> `S
>>>>>
>>>>> PS- Please don't hijack the thread defending how great MT is and
>>>>> how it can save the world etc.. not bashing, just want plug+play
>>>>> which != MT.  (:
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