Here is an idea for the tower sites....Run your cat5 in electrical conduit, the gray PVC type. That way the cat5 will be protected from the weather. I've done this and I haven't had to replace cat5 on the towers on over 3 years now.
--- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer <o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote: > From: Marlon K. Schafer <o...@odessaoffice.com> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself,they are > for the young > To: joe.mil...@dslbyair.com > Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:06 AM > I have had a few customers look at us crosswise. A couple > have even asked for wall plates, or had us install ethernet > jacks. We'll do this if asked, but I don't carry > the parts with me. > > I also try REALLY hard to NOT put any ethernet wall plates > in. I don't want the extra connection in a poe > situation. It's probably fine, but as an ex lineman I > know that connections are almost always the reason for a > failure so I want the fewest possible. > > We try to hide all cable as much as possible, we ask for a > vacuum to clean up any drillings, we do NOT leave the little > ends from the cat5 crimps laying around - not even outside. > > Hell, until recently we always ran indoor WHITE cat 5 > cable. People REALLY liked that, I have just gotten tired > of cables with water in them. Luckily it seems to almost > exclusively happen at my towers not at the customer's > sites. It's usually cheap and easy to replace the bad > cable and ruined poe. But I hate service calls! > > Sure wish I could find a double insulated white cable to > use instead of this black stuff we're using now. > > laters, > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Miller" > <joe.mil...@dslbyair.com> > To: "Marlon K. Schafer" > <o...@odessaoffice.com> > Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 7:59 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs > yourself,they are for the young > > > > > > I just had to ask......very interesting. > > > > > > --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer > <o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote: > > > >> From: Marlon K. Schafer > <o...@odessaoffice.com> > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing > installs yourself,they are for the young > >> To: joe.mil...@dslbyair.com, "WISPA General > List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >> Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 9:51 AM > >> Not at all. We hide the holes behind a desk or > something > >> when ever > >> possible. You'll never notice them. Unlike a > big, > >> ugly wall plate. > >> > >> marlon > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe > Miller" <joemiller...@yahoo.com> > >> To: "WISPA General List" > >> <wireless@wispa.org> > >> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 6:40 AM > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing > installs > >> yourself,they are > >> for the young > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Marlon, > >> > > >> > You are joking......right? > >> > > >> > > >> > --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer > >> <o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> From: Marlon K. Schafer > >> <o...@odessaoffice.com> > >> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop > doing > >> installs yourself, they > >> >> are for the young > >> >> To: "WISPA General List" > >> <wireless@wispa.org> > >> >> Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 8:30 AM > >> >> Who uses wall plates anyway? We just try > to get > >> the hole > >> >> right at the top > >> >> of the baseboards. Then, someday when > all this is > >> gone and > >> >> some new > >> >> technology (TV band with no external > antenna?) > >> replaces it > >> >> they'll just have > >> >> to plug one small hole and give it a dab > of paint! > >> >> marlon > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Scott Reed" > >> >> <scottr...@onlyinternet.net> > >> >> To: "WISPA General List" > >> >> <wireless@wispa.org> > >> >> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:08 AM > >> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop > doing > >> installs > >> >> yourself, they are > >> >> for the young > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Don't they still make plates > with just a > >> 1/4" > >> >> hole in it. No need to > >> >> > drill. > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > George Rogato wrote: > >> >> >> I was trying to drill a hole > into a blank > >> wall > >> >> plate. All of the sudden, > >> >> >> it shattered into about 10 > pieces. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> That happens a lot with a > typical > >> bakerlite type > >> >> wall plate. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Next time you buy blank plates, > try to > >> find the > >> >> lexan flexible ones. > >> >> >> Everyone makes them, they are > rubber like > >> and when > >> >> you drill a hole in > >> >> >> it, it doesn't crack or > shatter. > >> >> >> They come in white ivory etc and > like I > >> said, > >> >> everyone makes them , > >> >> >> Leviton, eagle, p&s, hubble > etc. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> They cost no more. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >> WISPA Wants You! 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