That looks like the same product as the 3m 2228 that I have the local hardware store order for me. marlon
----- Original Message ----- From: "Drew Lentz" <d...@drewlentz.com> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS:HyperlinkCoax Jumpers > I've used a couple of different methods, but one of my favorite (a little > more expensive) is Huber Suhner FastWrap: > > http://www.hubersuhner.ca/co-ca-us/mozilla/products/hs-p-rf/hs-rf-connectors > /hs-p-rf-con-access/ca-us-p-rf-con-access-fw > > I've used it from coast to coast to coast .. San fran to boston to south > padre island, tx and it has withstood everything that can be thrown at it; > snow, sleet, rain, hurricanes, intense sun and salt. > It's easy to get into, saves connectors, and keeps fingers pookie-free :) > > -drew > > > On 3/6/09 10:05 AM, "George Rogato" <wi...@oregonfast.net> wrote: > >> I don't know, as I understand it Mark was talking about mountain top >> with extreme elements. >> >> I live on the Oregon Coast, Oregon = lots of rain, the coast, lots of >> wind and rain. >> I have been taping for 10 years and must have 2,000 radios hung at least >> in all that time, and quality rubber tape and a vinyl layer has worked >> without issue. >> >> Heck, I've has two connectors that were untapped for a couple years that >> when I took them apart, where as dry as a bone and had no problems. One >> of them, the guys back yard was the ocean and the other a 1/2 mile away. >> >> What causes issues is when a person does a bad job tapping. >> >> When using tape, you have to stretch the tape and wrap with pressure. >> loose fitting tape is just asking for trouble. it creates little voids >> where water will sit and seep in. A tightly pulled rubber tape things >> out to almost teflon and gets into all the small pours of the joint. A >> few layers of rubber pulled tight is pretty much fool proof. >> >> >> >> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>> Anything that's easy to take off also won't hold water out as well.... >>> >>> I tried the vinyl tape, rubber tape, vinyl tape thing. Once. It didn't >>> leak (you go past the vinyl tape by a quarter to a half inch) but I just >>> couldn't bring myself to do it again. I'd rather take the time to >>> remove >>> the good stuff than take the time in bad weather to fix the easy stuff. >>> >>> Here's the trick to pulling the rubber tape off. Split it (lightly and >>> carefully so you don't go thought the outer cable jacket) then start >>> peeling >>> it back with a needle nose pliers. Work from the cut outward, on both >>> sides, a little at a time. Pretty soon you'll get to the point that you >>> can >>> just twist the pliers and the whole mess will come off pretty easily. >>> Takes >>> me about 5 minutes nowadays. >>> >>> marlon >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:54 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors >>> WAS:HyperlinkCoax Jumpers >>> >>> >>>> There are two methods I can say work. >>>> >>>> Electrical tape the entire thing then cover it in coax seal. The >>>> purpose >>>> of >>>> the electrical tape is only to "easily" remove all the gunk off of the >>>> coax >>>> connector. I personally spend $10 on a new cable and seal then >>>> spending >>>> 15 >>>> to 30 minutes minimum trying to clean it off. Coax seal does a >>>> beautiful >>>> job of keeping the weather out. The worst part about Ohio weather is >>>> that >>>> we can get a build up of ice and have it melt and freeze within 24 >>>> hours. >>>> Finding how to seal our gear was a difficult task but has been solved. >>>> >>>> For the last couple of years we quit using PacWireless enclosures and >>>> stick >>>> with the no name brand "2 or 4 n hole enclosure" with ribs and U bolts. >>>> Coax connectors sealed with a good foot of coax seal, from enclosure to >>>> the >>>> factory sealer of the coax cable. No problems in the last year or two >>>> since >>>> doing this. >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. >>>> --- Henry Spencer >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Mark Nash <markl...@uwol.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is the electrical tape just to hold the coax-seal in place? >>>>> >>>>> Mark Nash >>>>> UnwiredWest >>>>> 78 Centennial Loop >>>>> Suite E >>>>> Eugene, OR 97401 >>>>> 541-998-5555 >>>>> 541-998-5599 fax >>>>> http://www.unwiredwest.com >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:01 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Best Practice: Sealing Coax Connectors WAS: >>>>> HyperlinkCoax Jumpers >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Coaxseal and good electrical tape. LOL, I had one tower where the >>>>>> pigeons >>>>>> would peck at the connectors, so I added metal foil tape over the >>>>>> connection. That took care of that! >>>>>> -RickG >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Mark Nash <markl...@uwol.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The only thing we use to seal these connectors is fusion tape from >>>>>>> GB. >>>>> I >>>>>>> can get it from the local hardware store. I suspect that this is a >>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How is everyone sealing connectors on towers? This one particular >>>>>>> site >>>>> is >>>>>>> at 3100ft so it gets wind and cold. Snow & ice on it for a few >>>>>>> 2-week >>>>>>> periods per year. Lots of rain during the winter. It's been the >>>>>>> worst >>>>> for >>>>>>> coax failures. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark Nash >>>>>>> UnwiredWest >>>>>>> 78 Centennial Loop >>>>>>> Suite E >>>>>>> Eugene, OR 97401 >>>>>>> 541-998-5555 >>>>>>> 541-998-5599 fax >>>>>>> http://www.unwiredwest.com >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:22 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Hyperlink Coax Jumpers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have used custom made ones from Tessco as well as the pre mades >>>>> ones >>>>>>> from >>>>>>>> Wisp Router and other places. The last few years I have not had >>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>> problems though it may have been due to the fact we put so much >>>>>>>> coax >>>>> seal >>>>>>>> around them. Do you seal it with coax seal (or comparable >>>>>>>> material)? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Those who don't understand UNIX are condemned to reinvent it, >>>>>>>> poorly. >>>>>>>> --- Henry Spencer >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Mark Nash <markl...@uwol.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> We have had about 6 of these fail in the last few months, whereas >>>>> prior >>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> that we don't recall a problem. They are 2-ft NM-NM LMR195 >>>>>>>>> jumpers >>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>> Hyperlink. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Anyone else have a problem? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Any recommendations on best source for them? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We normally only use them on backhauls & APs, so when they go bad >>>>> it's >>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> big frustrating problem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Mark Nash >>>>>>>>> UnwiredWest >>>>>>>>> 78 Centennial Loop >>>>>>>>> Suite E >>>>>>>>> Eugene, OR 97401 >>>>>>>>> 541-998-5555 >>>>>>>>> 541-998-5599 fax >>>>>>>>> http://www.unwiredwest.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> ------ >>>>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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