AT&T's deal is based on the loops being under 25 miles.  There's another 
price for 25 to 50 miles.  I think it's also a 2xT minimum or something 
like that.

I'm almost at capacity on my 4xT circuit.  I have been trying to pull a 
tricky deal with them but so far it's not working.  My territory is 
LEC'd by Frontizens as I mentioned earlier.  But my infrastructure 
reaches to the county line where AT&T has a POP.  I was willing to 
literally buy a piece of vacant property next to it so I could 
effectively get a zero mile loop on a DS3.  No dice, even at zero miles, 
the loop minimum remains the same.  So I'm stuck going to a 5x or 6xT. 
The break even on a <25 mile frac DS3 is around $2700/mo.

Rk


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