My understanding is, it's a little more complex than that. With wimax prioritization and scheduling, the customer experience is similar to what they'd get at 2 or 3 times the normal bandwidth. In other words, the customer experience, given a 3 Mbps by 2 Mbps connection on wimax gives performance similar to a 5.8 connection at 6 to 9 Mbps down by 4 to 6 Mbps up. And, because of the prioritization and scheduling, where you might be able to support 100 customers, you can support 200 to 300 customers on a base station. The price for the wimax equipment is about 3x what it is for normal 5.8 equipment so the price per customer on a fully loaded base station is about the same.
However, that (obviously) means it's not particularly viable in many situations where you don't see enough customers to support a wimax base station. But because 3.65 with diversity is supposed to deliver NLOS performance similar to or better than 900 MHz, you can see customers you wouldn't otherwise see. And of course, it's clean spectrum. So, it isn't a simply question. It will be great for some, useless for others. But I think it's useful for more situations than people think it is. Chuck On Mar 19, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Good efficiencies, not enough throughput per channel, however. > > In one thread in one list we have people complaining about not > having enough > bandwidth to serve their customers now much less next year or the > next and > in the other, we have people excited about an AP that only does 18 > megabit. > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:24 PM > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? > >> Not enough? You get 18 mbps in a 7 mhz channel >> >> >> Gino A. Villarini >> g...@aeronetpr.com >> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >> boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:20 PM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? >> >> More troll than substance but I wouldn't put more than 30 users on a >> WiMAX AP anyway... not enough bandwidth. >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Jeff Booher" <jefftho...@fastmail.fm> >> Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 11:28 AM >> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? >> >>> It is not the same gear by any means. Tranzeo's AP is a micro base >>> station, >>> that only supports 30 subscribers. >>> >>> - >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >> On >>> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:34 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? >>> >>> I'm certainly interested in ptmp. >>> >>> The Tranzeo gear is the same as Aperto isn't it? >>> marlon >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:35 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? >>> >>> >>>> Ligowave its ptp in 3.65... >>>> >>>> Might wanna look at tranzeo for 3.65 ptmp >>>> >>>> >>>> Gino A. Villarini >>>> g...@aeronetpr.com >>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>>> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- >>>> boun...@wispa.org] >> On >>>> Behalf Of Leon Zetekoff >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:32 PM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? >>>> >>>> Hi Marlon...I'd look at the Ligowave stuff similar in principle to >> the >>>> UBNT stuff but I think much better. That's what I'd do today. >>>> >>>> Take care leon >>>> >>>> Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>>> I'm looking into this too. >>>>> >>>>> So far I can't find a solution for rural towers. A 3 sector >>>>> install >>>>> at $20k? Not to service the 20 people that will be able to even >>>>> see >>>>> that tower.... >>>>> >>>>> Anyone have any better ideas? >>>>> marlon >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> >>>>> To: "Motorola Canopy User Group" <motor...@wispa.org>; "WISPA >> General >>>> List" >>>>> <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 7:55 AM >>>>> Subject: [WISPA] 2nd Look @ 3.65 ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Fellow operators: >>>>>> >>>>>> Any updates on your experienes with 3.65 gear? PMP and PTP? >>>>>> >>>>>> Any updates on experiences with: >>>>>> >>>>>> Redline, Aperto, Tranzeo, Vecima, Alvarion, Ligowave, Solectek, >>>>>> Airspan ??? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Gino A. Villarini >>>>>> g...@aeronetpr.com >>>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>>>>> tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> -------- >>>> WISPA Wants You! 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