I found that with a NanoStation2 I was able to provide coverage to an 
entire strip mall. Google earth it:

  229 Main Street
El Segundo, CA 90245

is where I deployed the AP.

It's a fairly standard strip mall. I covered the entire mall, plus 
across the street in all 4 directions.



Tom DeReggi wrote:
> Over the years, there have been many theories and strategies regarding what 
> polarity is best to use for various purposes.
> As an engineer, I as well have my theories. But, I wanted to get an updated 
> opinion based on field trials of others, for the following application....
> 
> Application... 2.4Ghz WAN WIFI HotSpot
> Specs...
> 1) Average sub located within 100 yards to 1/2 mile.
> 2) Find and Subscribe by "Search for available Networks", via laptop's WIFI 
> card.
> 3) If RF signal good enough to get a web splash screen to user, will display 
> instruction for ordering higher gain antenna self-install kit for inside 
> their window mount or balcony.
> 4) Access Point would likely use a sector panel (60 deg?), with an EIRP of 
> 36db.
> 
> The goal here is.... enabling residential users to find the ISP's AP on 
> their own.
> 
> So my questions are....
> 
> 1. If a Horizontally polarized antenna is used at the AP, Is it likely the 
> consumer will equally be able to find your AP, compared to if it had been 
> verical pol'd?
> 
> The idea being, horizontal pol's noise floor is much lower in the particular 
> area, and more likely ISP will avoid the noise from consumer APs that ship 
> with vert pol antennas, where end users by default will stick the antennas 
> straight up in Verticle pol position.
> 
> 2. By the time the ISP's horizontal signal gets to the end user, is it 
> received in multiple polarities, based on all the reflections in end users 
> home and stuff?
> 
> 3. Are laptop wifi cards typically "no polarity", and pick up Horizontal as 
> good as verticle signals?
> 
> 4. Laptops would appear to have Horizontal pol antennas in some cases, 
> expecially if a PCMCIA card. Is this true?  Or are most laptops starting to 
> embed verticle pol antennas on the sides of screens?
> 
> 5. Are End Users getting savy enough to move their laptop all around, when 
> they first take it out of the box, to try and find Horizontal pol APs of 
> ISPs Hotspots?
> 
> In summary.... If doing Hotspot WAN deployment, and Verticle noise is 
> significantly higher, will an ISP be doing a smart thing putting their 
> sector on Horiz pol to avoid noise, or shooting themself in the foot because 
> they'll be sending a signal cross pol to the average end user's verticle 
> pol's Wifi card, taking a 20db hit off the bat?
> 
> Sure.... Horizontal will be better, if the the consumer gets a professional 
> install, or learns to put an external horizontal pol antenna on their laptop 
> or PC. But most people may not know to do that, by default, for hotspot self 
> subscription.  (PS. recognize could use dual pol or 45deg off pol, but 
> purposely avoiding that, to try not to interfere with others, to enable more 
> people to play in the same spectrum)
> 
> What have other's found?
> 
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "George Rogato" <wi...@oregonfast.net>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] RB333/433 eliminating self-interference test
> 
> 
>> Tom DeReggi wrote:
>>> Good point but..... the problem went away when the mcpi cards each had 
>>> their own SBC/Case, this would infer card to card or pigtail to pigtail 
>>> interference, since in all cases the dummy load was outside the cases, 
>>> from what it sounds like.
>>>
>>> I guess that should be clarified....
>>>
>>> Kurt, when you tested with teh RB600 and 3 cards on the adjacent slots, 
>>> was the RB600 also in a case with the holes metal taped?
>>>
>>>
>>> Tom DeReggi
>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Question I have that should debunk that theory that cards in close
>> proximity interfere with each other. Why do the cards not interfere with
>> each other when there is additional gain antennas hooked on to them?
>>
>> You would think there would be even more self interference with high
>> gain antennas than with no antennas....
>>
>>
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