All depends on who the FCC had deputized, it sounds like :) Randy
Scott Carullo wrote: > Ok... so back to original dilemma... > > I take a XR5, the precise antenna they certified with this radio card, a > RB411 and hook it all up and use it myself within FCC RF guidelines. > > Criminal or law abiding citizen... > > Scott Carullo > Brevard Wireless > 321-205-1100 x102 > > -------- Original Message -------- > >> From: "Jack Unger" <jun...@ask-wi.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 3:47 PM >> To: "e...@wisp-router.com" <e...@wisp-router.com>, "WISPA General List" >> > <wireless@wispa.org> > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC >> >> My view is that once certified with a specific antenna then a system is >> legal with any antenna of similar type (panel, yagi, etc.) of equal of >> lesser gain. Anybody can make the decision to substitute a similar type >> but lower gain antenna. I ran this by the FCC last year and they >> confirmed it. Again, the original system must have already been >> > certified > >> Eje Gustafsson wrote: >> >>> Only the manufacturer listed on the certificate can make that decision. >>> > The > >>> rules states that antenna of similar type in same or lower gain is >>> > certified > >>> but it's only the manufacturer that can make that decision what is >>> considered similar type and there for approved to use with the unit. >>> >>> This is at least the feedback I gotten from the FCC testing lab I been >>> working with on getting radios certified. But if the radio manufacturer >>> > say > >>> it's ok to use a similar antenna by a different manufacturer but not >>> > higher > >>> gain then what was tested the it's ok. Of course any antenna that is >>> > actual > >>> listed on the certificate will always be approved as long it's the >>> > same > >>> model. >>> >>> / Eje >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] >>> > On > >>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:23 PM >>> To: sc...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC >>> >>> That was some ruling passed a few years ago that really freed the >>> > markets > >>> up. Certify with the largest panel, omni, parabolic dish, etc. you can >>> > get > >>> to pass and anything in those groups is fair game. >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Scott Carullo" <sc...@brevardwireless.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:24 PM >>> To: "Matt Liotta" <mlio...@r337.com>; <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC >>> >>> >>> >>>> I've been told personally by an FCC testing lab that I can take a XR5 >>>> > > >>>> which >>>> has been tested with say a 23db panel antenna (with FCC) and use the >>>> > same > >>>> gain antenna or less for myself and would not have to have it >>>> > certified > >>>> again... They told me not to get it tested because I didn't need to >>>> because Ubiquity already part certified it on that type antenna. >>>> >>>> If this is an argument we will never resolve I can live with that, but >>>> > I > >>>> am >>>> fairly sure with the resources on this list we can come to a final >>>> conclusion based on facts and I think we should. >>>> >>>> Scott Carullo >>>> Brevard Wireless >>>> 321-205-1100 x102 >>>> >>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: "Matt Liotta" <mlio...@r337.com> >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:52 PM >>>>> To: "sc...@brevardwireless.com" <sc...@brevardwireless.com>, "WISPA >>>>> >>>>> >>>> General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC >>>>> >>>>> On May 12, 2009, at 1:25 PM, Scott Carullo wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Eje Gustafsson says this is not the case or elsewhen I buy a >>>>>> > minipci > >>>>>> wireless card for my laptop it would be illegal... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> This has been discussed at length. No matter how many times someone >>>>> makes the laptop argument it doesn't change the fact that the FCC >>>>> disagrees with that argument. Now someone could pay an attorney to >>>>> argue with the FCC and get them to clarify the situation. Until that >>>>> time the system certification requirement stands. >>>>> >>>>> -Matt >>>>> >>>>> >> -- >> Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. >> Author - "Deploying License-Free Wireless WANs" >> Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 >> www.ask-wi.com 818-227-4220 jun...@ask-wi.com >> >> "Email spam is just the latest way of asking >> for "Forgiveness" instead of asking for "Permission". >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > >> WISPA Wants You! 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