Lets not forget the rules may not be the same depending on what type 
certification one is looking for.

If Mikrotik got a part B certification for the hardware board, and MT makes 
the hardware board, its irrelevent where an end user buys the board, 
Mikrotik is responsible for the certification that they had gotten for their 
hardware.

However, for wireless system certifications (forget technical name of type) 
its a different story. The software, hardware, and RF have to all get 
certified togeather.
And it was clear their had to be a "responisble party" aka the 
"manufacturer". So certifying a combination yourself would make yourself the 
manufacturer.
Can one be, without any control of the software code writing? I would think 
an authroized distributor would gain Mikrotik's endorsement for gaining such 
support.
But does the FCC require it or allow it, considering intelectual property 
considerations?

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Burgess - LinkTechs" <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
To: <sc...@brevardwireless.com>; "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC


> Yes, you can not certify the radios, MT wants the distributors to build
> and certify them.  If you build them, they won't be certified.
>
> ------------------------------
> * Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org <http://www.wispa.org/>
> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services*
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>
> Scott Carullo wrote:
>> I'm pretty sure the FCC and the testing labs don't care who you are or
>> where you buy your stuff...  thats not what they are looking for. 
>> Example
>> - I choose to take 4 parts (some mikrotik) and get them certified - I
>> can....  Do you see this differently?
>>
>> Scott Carullo
>> Brevard Wireless
>> 321-205-1100 x102
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>>
>>> From: "Dennis Burgess - Linktechs" <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 3:43 PM
>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>>>
>>> First, you have to be a distributor of MT to be able to certify. It has
>>> to be a certified system, as well has to have all of the images, text
>>> etc on it as well.  You can only get those if you are a MT distributor.
>>>
>>> * -----------------------------------------------------------
>>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
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>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
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>>> Randy Cosby wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can you explain what you mean by "certified" then?  What does that
>>>> entail other than just putting together a board, antenna and radio that
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>> are fcc certified?  Do you have the entire unit tested and certified,
>>>>
>> or
>>
>>>> do yo see that as not necessary?
>>>>
>>>> Randy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Eje Gustafsson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Cross roads are certified with the entire Pacific Wireless line of
>>>>>
>> antennas.
>>
>>>>> R52 is certified with most of those as well (if not all). You can also
>>>>>
>> use
>>
>>>>> XR2/5 cards in RB SBC's.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are other solutions as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> We offer some certified pre built solutions more to come.
>>>>>
>>>>> / Eje Gustafsson
>>>>> CTO
>>>>> WISP-Router, Inc.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>>>>
>> On
>>
>>>>> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:56 PM
>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>>>>>
>>>>> Old thread, but just curious where this has progressed.  I've seen
>>>>>
>> that
>>
>>>>> JeffSoHoCo has "certified" gear.  Is that based on the same Mikrotik
>>>>> program you describe here Mac?  Is that information available from
>>>>> Mikrotik to any reseller?
>>>>>
>>>>> Randy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mac Dearman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>   Word on the FCC certified gear is that they are working with USA
>>>>>>
>> based
>>
>>>>>> resellers to get them up to speed to offer certified gear. It's all
>>>>>>
>> in the
>>
>>>>>> paperwork at this point in time and we all know that the devil is in
>>>>>>
>> the
>>
>>>>>> paperwork. It is on its way from what I understand and should be
>>>>>>
>> readily
>>
>>>>>> available in the near future.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mac
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>>>>>>
>> On
>>
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:12 PM
>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mikrotik has the Crossroads device out now.  Not sure on anyone
>>>>>>>
>> else.
>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> think Mikrotik developing their own certified CPE shut down
>>>>>>>
>> everyone
>>
>>>>>>> else.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net>
>>>>>>> To: <isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com>; "WISPA General List"
>>>>>>> <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:37 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik FCC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought a little while ago someone was talking about someone
>>>>>>>>
>> that
>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> working on making an FCC certified Mikrotik solution (RB532,
>>>>>>>>
>> etc.).
>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> anyone know the status on this or if it was even real?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Travis
>>>>>>>> Microserv
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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