You're correct with the liability thing...  it sucks that people sue over 
such petty things.


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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



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From: "Jonathan Schmidt" <jeschm...@jeschmidt.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:38 PM
To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect

> There is some potential liability in this.
>
> You don't know if friends are visiting and using the computer...or, the
> subscriber has an Wi-Fi w/o WAP/WEP and others are (potentially
> accidentally) using it.  In any case, you could be slandering the
> subscriber by calling them deadbeats to other people.
>
> It seems more polite to hit them over and over or persistantly with a
> demand that they contact a phone number to address a problem with their
> subscription.  It also may stop a law suit...a typical response from a
> real deadbeat.
>
> Cutting off the service is an option but it may enrage the person to
> "never do business with that company again."  What you need to do is talk
> with them without slandering them.
>
> ...just a thought...
>
> . . . J o n a t h a n
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of sa...@michianawireless.com
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:03 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect
>
> Well. We kinda do this now. When a customer get to far out. We manually
> add a rule to the router at the tower site he is connected to that
> redirects all his port 80 traffic to a webpage that says basically, "You
> didn't pay you bill for a long time and you need to contact us and make a
> payment to before your web surfing will be available again." Email still
> works, etc...
>
> We will still do that. But what I am trying to accomplish is to have my
> billing system log into the client as soon as is hits 31+ in the billing
> system and set a rule on the router board that will now occasionally
> interrupt the clients web browsing by redirecting them to a page letting
> them know they are now 31+ past due and offer them the chance to pay now.
> If they chose to not pay now, they can just continue with what they were
> doing. This way they are always in the "know" that they are behind and are
> presented with a way to cure that immediately. Again since the client is
> not way behind I just want the surfing to be redirect occasionally.
>
> Next step would be after this is gone on and they hit 40 days the next
> script would be ran where it redirects all there web traffic indefinitely
> to the pay your bill page until paid.
>
> I hope that explains it better.
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chuck Profito" <cprof...@cv-access.com>
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:45:59 AM GMT -05:00 Columbia
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect
>
> Why not just a redirect of all port 80 traffic on that ip at 60 days, to
> the 'Gracious Offer' page,  "If you call in the next seven days there will
> be no reup fees, please see your e-mail!", Or maybe just redirect them to
> a Web Mail Portal sign in page...  then 7-14 days later it ALL gets turned
> off including cancellation fees, if any.
>
>
> Chuck Profito
> 209-988-7388
> CV-ACCESS, INC
> cprof...@cv-access.com
> Providing High Speed Broadband
> to Rural Central California
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Eje Gustafsson
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 6:05 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect
>
> Yepp bit expected. Because a web page consists of multiple images most of
> the time and if you use every nth you never know if that rule will then
> hit a icon, text page or picture file that is retrieved.
>
> You could setup something that uses the hotspot service and the
> advertisement banners. Or I created a solution with Gatespot that when the
> user login to the hotspot will redirect them to a messaging system that
> will display any messages to the user if there are any and if there isn't
> then the user will get their original requested webpage just like normal.
>
>
> / Eje
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of sa...@michianawireless.com
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 7:24 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] Mikrotik Redirect
>
> What I am attempting to do is setup a script to put on the client
> routerboard when there account becomes 30+ days behind. This script will
> occasionally redirect the clients web browser to a notice page that lets
> them know there account is past due and offer a payment page. If they
> refresh they should be able to continue browsing. This is intended to be
> multipurpose, informative to the user in case they forgot to pay, offer a
> quick way to get caught up and be a tad annoying until paid.
>
> I tried this experiment on my home connection:
>
> 0 X chain=dstnat action=dst-nat to-addresses=1.2.3.4 to-ports=80
>     protocol=tcp src-address=0.0.0.0/0 dst-address=!1.2.3.4 dst-port=80
>     nth=5,1
>
> Really did not work as planned. Occasionally I would get the page at the
> 1.2.3.4 server but most of the time I would get broken links and partially
> displayed pages?
>
> John Buwa
> Michiana Wireless
>
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