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"When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Jonathan Schmidt <jeschm...@jeschmidt.com>wrote: > I read a survey not long ago (sorry, can't find it) that showed that, by > far, the most important factor in "broadband" access was always-on as > opposed to interrupting your phone service, waiting a minute before you > can browse, etc. This was a survey of folks who had broadband. > > I manage my Medicare on line, obtain renewals for driver's license and > auto registrations, pay my property taxes, and save the government lots > and lots of money by doing those activities myself. There are many > reasons the government is actively promoting universal, convenient > Internet access. > > I have both "speed boost" RoadRunner cable HSD service and 768K DSL as an > automatic (lower metric on my router) backup and can say that it's not a > disaster when RoadRunner goes down although it is certainly > noticeable...especially if I go to YouTube. It's not RoadRunner's fault > that we live in more rural settings with a really perpendicular vertical > utility pole very unusual...most are off up to 10 degrees and wiggle a > lot. > > Back to broadband; A 1Mbps service that's always on would allow students > to do their school work, allow on-line government activities, let you > check the weather, etc., and, although not zippy, it is quite functional > and certainly would permit the do-it-yourself governmental activities > without the problems with dial-up. > > However, the acceleration of the availability of facilities that only work > well at 10Mbps and above is happening very fast and I wouldn't be > surprised that students in K-12 as well as universities will soon be > required to watch video teaching aids that will demand that. > > By the way, I have been getting 1Mbps tethered from my laptop through my > AT&T 3G phone service for several years, as well. It's $15 a month with > no consumption limit. The latency makes it a bit of a sporty course to > use, however. > > Now, put all that together, all those speeds, all the vehicles (Cable, > WISP, DSL, and 3G), and comparisons with countries where people are > crammed together cheek to jowl instead of your neighbor being on the > opposite side of a mountain the size of Sweden and, furthermore, imagine > an FCC bureaucrat facing a technically-challenged congressman... > > Well, the problem speaks for itself. > > . . . j o n a t h a n > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Curtis Maurand > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:06 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps > > Jack Unger wrote: > > Hi Victoria, > > > > The FCC Workship "1 Mbps" statement is very, very generalized. It's > > nothing to get upset about. > > > > If we want the FCC to update their knowledge about WISPs then we need > > to educate the FCC. We DO educate them with every FCC filing and > > presentation that we make. In the last year, we've made about a dozen > > written filings plus an in-person presentations to four of the five > > previous FCC Commissioners and to the FCC OET staff. Keep in mind that > > everything we write or present becomes a part of the public record. > > > > WISPA's FCC Committee is working on writing and filing FCC Comments > > right now, at this very moment. This filing is in response to an FCC > > "Notice of Inquiry" (NOI) about "advanced telecommunications services" > > and "broadband". The NOI asks whether broadband is being deployed to > > all Americans in a reasonable and timely fashion. The NOI asks five > > "core questions". > > Ooh. Ooh. This is easy. :-) > > > > (1) How should we define "advanced telecommunications capability" or > > "broadband?" *(NOTE: The FCC is asking about "speed" here)* > A reasonable enduser experience with websites like YouTube, Hulu or BBC > without too much finger drumming. > > > > (2) Is broadband available to all Americans? > > > No > > > > (3) Is the current level of broadband deployment reasonable and timely? > > > No > > > > (4) What actions, if any, should the Commission take to accelerate > > broadband deployment? > > > This one is harder. If we want to perpetuate the duopoly system that > dominiates the urban/suburban landscape, then: > Mandate that 100% of America (and territories) be covered, with a > deadline for compliance and stiff fines for non-complience. > Otherwise, huge tax breaks for the little guy (read WISP) to get the job > done. If you're a company with over 50 employees, no tax break. > > > > (5) What actions should the Commission take to improve its regular > > broadband data collection efforts? > > > > > Help the little guy, because he's the one who'll serve where the duopoly > won't. > > > duopoly = CATV monopoly plus ILEC. > > --C > > We've got to be a little careful about how we ask the FCC to define > > broadband because: > > > > 1. If we set the bar too high, for example by saying that "broadband" > > is 5 Mbps or more then we risk excluding WISPs who do not provide at > > least 5 Mbps. They may not be eligible for funding or may not even be > > considered legitimate WISPs. > > > > 2. Some WISPs do not understand the difference between "raw" data rate > > and actual throughput and we don't want one WISP's lack of > > understanding to distort the FCC's definitions of "broadband". > > > > 3. Some WISPs do not understand that throughput is shared between all > > of the active customers on an AP at any given moment. Even if an AP is > > capable of delivering 10 Mbps of actual throughput, when 30 customers > > are active then less than 333k (10 Meg divided by 30) is available to > > each customer, sometimes far less. We don't want to let the fact that > > available throughput per customer is usually less than the maximum > > single-customer throughput to distort the FCC's definition of > > "broadband". > > > > In conclusion, I think it's better to let the FCC set the broadband > > "bar" a little low so we have a chance to demonstrate that we can > > sometimes exceed it rather than let some WISP who is bragging about > > speeds that he may or may actually be able to deliver cause the FCC to > > set the broadband "bar" too high so that the FCC writes unrealistic > > regulations (or the NITA and RUS originate unrealistic grant programs) > > that either ignore or exclude the needs of the majority of WISPs. > > > > Jack Unger > > Chair - WISPA FCC Committee > > > > > > St. Louis Broadband wrote: > >> They are not getting it from my form 477. > >> The only 1 Mbps service we offer is upload and that is with a 5 Mbps > >> download. > >> > >> Victoria > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > >> Behalf Of Jason Hensley > >> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:01 AM > >> To: 'WISPA General List' > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps > >> > >> Hmm, so I guess my 10Mbps down and 8mbps up wireless links (yes, to > >> customers) don't count???? > >> > >> My guess, though, is that they're pulling this data from the 477 and > making > >> assumptions based on that. Most of our customers are 1.5Mbps or less > >> customers so looking at the "raw" 477 data then yes, it would appear > that we > >> may not be doing much more than the 1.5meg. > >> > >> Interesting... > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > >> Behalf Of Lists > >> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:54 AM > >> To: 'WISPA General List' > >> Subject: [WISPA] FCC Says Fixed Wireless Only Delivers 1 Mbps > >> > >> This really ticks me off: > >> > >> > >> > >> "Wireless broadband Internet access services offered over fixed > networks > >> allow consumers to access the Internet from a fixed point while > stationary > >> > >> and often require a direct line-of-sight between the wireless > transmitter > >> and receiver. These services have been offered using both licensed > spectrum > >> > >> and unlicensed devices. For example, thousands of small Wireless > Internet > >> Services Providers (WISPs) provide such wireless broadband at speeds of > > >> > >> around one Mbps using unlicensed devices, often in rural areas not > served by > >> cable or wireline broadband networks." > >> > >> http://www.broadband.gov/broadband_types.html > >> > >> > >> > >> I talked to them at the NTIA workshop in Memphis about this, but they > are > >> still defaming our industry. > >> > >> I have emailed them at the broadband.gov site and think it is a good > idea > >> that they hear from more of us. > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks! > >> > >> Victoria Proffer - President/CEO > >> > >> StLouisBroadband.com <http://stlbroadband.com/> > >> > >> <http://showmebroadband.com/> ShowMeBroadband.com > >> > >> Rural Missouri Wireless Project. > >> > >> 314.974.5600 * Fax 573.747.4756 > >> > >> Follow us on Twitter.com @stlbroadband > >> > >> SBA Certified WOSB > >> > >> STLBBLogo > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > >> ---- > >> WISPA Wants You! 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