E is only really useful for mobile and mobile is not supportable with the
current 3650 rules.
-Matt

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Tim Sylvester <t...@avanzarnetworks.com>wrote:

> I would like to see more vendors support 802.16e at 3.65GHz. Also I would
> like to see 802.16e at 3.65GHz supported in a netbook and a USB dongle.
> Does
> anyone know if the Intel WiMAX chips support 3.65GHz?
>
> Tim
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of Matt Liotta
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2009 3:34 PM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Which WiMAX Are You?
> >
> > I look forward to seeing everyone at 4G World next week.
> > Personally, I don't care for D or E in a fixed deployment, but if you
> > nailed
> > me down I would go with D. WiMAX tries to be too many things for too
> > many
> > people. WiMAX-based proprietary systems are far more useful for fixed
> > deployments.
> >
> > -Matt
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:28 PM, Patrick Leary <ple...@apertonet.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The subject question is one Aperto thinks should be asked and now is
> > the
> > > time to ask it. The WiMAX Forum has been beating the 802.16e drum in
> > a
> > > manner trying to chump 802.16d. The fact is, there are two WiMAX
> > > standards, not one. By the Forum's own words from a 2005 paper it put
> > > out in November 2005, penned by Monica Paoli of Seza Fila:
> > >
> > > "The WiMAX Forum is committed to providing optimized solutions for
> > > fixed, nomadic,
> > > portable and mobile broadband wireless access. Two versions of WiMAX
> > > address the
> > > demand for these different types of access:
> > > * 802.16-2004 WiMAX. This is based on the 802.16-2004 version of the
> > > IEEE 802.16
> > > standard and on ETSI HiperMAN. It uses Orthogonal Frequency Division
> > > Multiplexing (OFDM) and supports fixed and nomadic access in Line of
> > > Sight
> > > (LOS) and Non Line of Sight (NLOS) environments.
> > > * 802.16e WiMAX. Optimized for dynamic mobile radio channels, this
> > > version is
> > > based on the 802.16e amendment and provides support for handoffs and
> > > roaming."
> > >
> > > It is time the Forum own up to their own words, so Aperto is going to
> > > asking the question at 4G World coming up in Chicago next week. The
> > fact
> > > is, the fixed standard is stable and ideal for what it was designed
> > to
> > > do: deliver fixed (and limited nomadicity) wireless broadband. This
> > > version of the standard is better, yes better, than the mobile
> > version
> > > for doing metroscale fixed. It provides 13% more capacity per MHz and
> > > 35% or so less latency. It can also be configured for symmetric or
> > even
> > > higher ratio upstream vs. downstream, which is critical for networks
> > > doing high capacity upstream like video surveillance.
> > >
> > > For too long, vendors that now only do the mobile standard have been
> > > trying to squeeze the round peg of the mobile standard into the
> > square
> > > hole of fixed networks. This has been confusing many, and leading
> > some
> > > to overpay for their networks. Why pay for millions in R&D for
> > features
> > > that you can never use, especially in a 3.65 GHz network where mobile
> > > can't happen? We have seen "consultants" spec'ing in E for 3.65 GHz,
> > > thinking they will get interoperability and even PC cards for their
> > > networks. They also think they can get self-install -- something this
> > > community knows is not possible in 3.65 GHz due to the power
> > > restrictions placed on indoor modems. Operators and other would-be
> > WiMAX
> > > deployers are being hoodwinked.
> > >
> > > The E standard does enable use of diversity, but it comes at a high
> > cost
> > > and is of limited benefit for rural operators. The truth is that
> > > diversity is designed to increase link budgets to support self-
> > install.
> > >
> > > Basically, each standard has its place, E is for people in 2.5 GHz
> > doing
> > > self-install, like Clearwire, and we all know the low service
> > > (especially low upstream) packages offered in Clearwire's service. D
> > is
> > > better and cheaper for rural fixed operators, and especially for
> > public
> > > safety video type networks and definitely for voice-centric users. D
> > is
> > > better for enterprise, where many users sit behind the CPE. E is
> > better
> > > for roaming individual users with modest expectations.
> > >
> > > We'd like to hear your opinions, and if you like to discuss this with
> > us
> > > while at 4G World, please drop me a note.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Patrick Leary
> > > Aperto Networks
> > >
> > >
> > > Patrick Leary
> > > Aperto Networks
> > > 813.426.4230 mobile
> > >
> > >
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