I don't care how much they cost. One crimp, gone. Phil
On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 6:03 PM, 3-dB Networks <wi...@3-db.net> wrote: > I strongly recommend this cable because I think it helps a lot telling if > you got the right color wire in the right hole. Sometimes finding that > stripe on the white can be difficult: http://tinyurl.com/ygxeywo > > > Daniel White > 3-dB Networks > http://www.3dbnetworks.com > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > >Behalf Of Tom DeReggi > >Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:56 PM > >To: WISPA General List > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have > > > >But you're missing the point. > >Yeah, Its definately not worth it, for those that can use the standard > >CAT5s > >effectively. > >But your math assumes that they can, and not considering the other > >costs. > >The ROI is NOT on the time saved comparing successful installs, > >comparing > >both types. > >The ROI is on time saved comparing costs of failed connector installs. > > > >What does it cost you if you crimp an end, and get a flaky crimp, and > >the > >link not work? How long does it take to figure out which side of the > >cable > >had the bad crimp? > >A 25 cent RJ-45 becomes 50 cents, if you ahve to cut one off and replace > >it. > >I can give an example of recently where I had to send a guy back into > >the > >city (half day's labor) to fix a packet loss problem caused by defective > >CAT5 plug terminations. > >But most of the lost time was in the office troubleshooting the > >defective > >packloss link trying to find what was wrong. > > > >I can sympathise with eye sight degrating, in my older age :-( . > >The error rate of successful CAT5 terminations go up, if eye sight is > >going > >down. > > > >The question to ask is.... are the installers having to high a failure > >rate > >for their first crimpts? If they are, then it may be a good investment. > >As well, I look at my time as worth $100/hr, and I'd gladly spend the > >extra > >$100 for connectors if it meant I was more likely to have sucessful > >crimpts > >the first time. > >I compare... Risking paying 25 cent extra verus risk spending extra $100 > >in > >time figuring out where I made the Crimp mistake. > > > >For the record, I do not use EZ-Rj45 plugs. But I understand the value > >of > >Using the best RJ-45Plugs, and the ROI is there. I personally like to > >use > >the the RJ45 Plugs sold by Shireen. > >Ever since we started using them, terminations have been so much easier > >and > >successful. > > > >I like the Shireen plugs because they have just the right wire hole > >diameters for the wire to slide in easy, and I can be certain that > >they'll > >slide into the right slots as I tried to align them to. > >(Its becoming harder for me to tell the wire color once its inside the > >Jack, > >due to eyes). And I can be certain they'll crimp securely. > > > >I also got tired of the two peice CAT5 jacks, because I always kept > >loosing > >the second peices, and ended up having to throw away 20% of them that > >would > >be incomplete set. > > > > > >Tom DeReggi > >RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > >IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > >To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 5:15 PM > >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gotta Have > > > > > >> At 200/mo you'd need at least one more customer per month. Don't see > >> this happening by speeding up rj45 connectors. > >> > >> On 10/18/09, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote: > >>> These do look great... and I would love to buy them for my > >installers... > >>> but > >>> $.50 per connector compared to what I pay now would cost me an extra > >$200 > >>> per month just in connectors. :( > >>> > >>> Travis > >>> Microserv > >>> > >>> Mike wrote: > >>>> > >>>> They DO sell shielded. Part PLT-100020-050 > >>>> Look further down the list at: www.ezrj45.com > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> At 11:13 AM 10/18/2009, you wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Yeah, those are awesome. I wish they had shielded connectors as > >well. > >>>>> > >>>>> marlon > >>>>> > >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>>>> From: "Mike" <m...@aweiowa.com> > >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 7:01 AM > >>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Gotta Have > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I have learned a lot from this list. I think there is some real > >>>>>> talent lurking here. We all have discovered certain things which > >>>>>> just make life as a WISP easier. I think it would be beneficial > >to > >>>>>> list participants in general if there was a thread which contained > >a > >>>>>> description and use of something you find invaluable -- hardware, > >>>>>> software etc ... you would like to share with the group. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'll start: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> what: EZRJ-45 connector system > >>>>>> where: www.ezrj45.com > >>>>>> why: As my eyes get older, and especially in low light > >situations, I > >>>>>> find it very difficult to get all those individual conductors on a > >>>>>> CAT5 run in the right order while crimping an end. This is a > >quite > >>>>>> ingenious system. The plugs have holes all the way through. You > >can > >>>>>> verify the color code easily BEFORE crimping and cutting the > >>>>>> tags. It takes a special crimp tool which has a pair of blades > >that > >>>>>> cut the tags as it crimps the connector in place. Maybe not a > >time > >>>>>> saver in my case, but definitely a GRIEF saver. I've not miswired > >an > >>>>>> Ethernet plug since I started using this system. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Mike > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >------------- > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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