Nathan, Like your perspective. I'll say.... the reason that I admit that I have had some uptime issues is that.....
I once had an ATT- T1, that never had a single outage or degregation in the 4 years that we had it. NOT one. It was special to have that experience, and see something so reliable over time, that simply could be relied on. Some people have that high of a standard. For example, I bet the NY Stock Exchange would pay about anything to guarantee 4 years of ZERO downtime. But, in my opinon we no longer live in that age. Networks are getting complicated. We are in the age of SHARED infrastructure. All it takes is a single config mistake for a new sub, and a metro network can accidentally be taken down. Short outages now and then are tolerable and to be expected on any carriers network, and Carriers expect tier2/3 ISPs to have backup transits. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Stooke" <nstooke...@wisperisp.com> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] choice of upstreams > Hello, > > I know when we where shopping for bandwidth all of the other > providers said Cogent was bad yet almost all of Cogent customers said they > were great!! You have to take into account the bias of the person that > started the rumor. We have had cogent for almost 3 years. 2 times have > we > gone down. First, for 30 min, was the part failing and the second, 3 > hours, > was replacing the part after it failed a second time. Their support is > great and they know their stuff. > > No matter who you chose to go with 2 providers is better than 1. > However, we still only have one for cost and the given track record of > Cogent. > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Nick Olsen > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:24 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] choice of upstreams > > As we can all see, This is very dependent on market. Bret here has had a > great time with cogent, where others are quick to say its a lesser > provider. Arguing which carrier has better uptime is a waste of time. > > Long story short, Pick what is the best in that market. > You might even get away with looking up some of the big company's in your > city, and if they peer with someone you might also want to peer with (like > cogent). Give them a call and see if you can get a tech, see what they > have > to say about $CARRIER in your area. They might tell you to jump in a lake, > but you might get someone cool who is willing to talk. > > Nick Olsen > Brevard Wireless > (321) 205-1100 x106 > > > ---------------------------------------- > > From: "Bret Clark" <bcl...@spectraaccess.com> > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:10 PM > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] choice of upstreams > > Brad Belton wrote: >> While I agree no solution can be considered equal in any given location, >> there are trends or a general barometer to help place one carrier over >> another. >> > Such as? >> This is exactly my point (being made by Tom, a Cogent customer!) why > Cogent >> should not be depended on as a sole or primary Internet feed. If > Cogent's >> all you got then you're SOL! >> > Baloney, we've used them as one of our primary's for well over a year > without hiccup. Our so other "better" providers have given us more > frustration. >> Bottom line is any carrier can break. If you can only have one then > find >> one that breaks the least. If you can have more than one, Cogent is a > good >> low cost second or third to have in a pinch for relatively little cost. >> >> > Where are you getting your data from? Curious as to why you feel they > are a second or third alternative? > > Bret > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > WISPA Wants You! 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