RE the 30 meter antennas .... possibly he is referring to the height limits on antennas (and not the size)? The R&O document said client antennas had to be 10m AGL, and AP antennas had to be less than 30m. http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/FCC-08-260A1.pdf (page 65) -John
On Oct 22, 2009, at 8:52 PM, Mike wrote: > At 704 MHz, a quarter wave is about 4 inches long. The driven > element of a Yagi would be about 8 inches long. They would be way > shorter than 30 meters, or what do you mean? Think about the 900 MHz > antennas you see but just a little bigger for the upper UHF white > space. > > Ch 52 is 698 MHz. Ch 69 is 800 MHz. Some of the talk I've seen > about enormous antennas in the "white space" is ludicrous. > > Give me ANY part of it and the radios to use it and I > will. Propagation would be superior to anything we're using now. > > Mike > > > At 07:46 PM 10/22/2009, you wrote: >> What equipment are they using? Did they have to do the 30 meter >> antennas? >> >> Scottie >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- >> From: "Gino Villarini" <g...@aeronetpr.com> >> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> >> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:05:22 -0400 >> >>> IIRC, 6 mhz channels were proponed on the FCC RO, you could bond >>> them... >>> so with current OFDM technologies you can get 10 - 12 Mbps on a 6 >>> mhz >>> channel. >>> >>> Not bad for a NLOS, self install and mobile probability >>> >>> Gino A. 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