Dennis, Can the MikroTik router be used for just this purpose? I already have routers in place so I do not need the router function on these.
----- Original Message ---- From: Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net> To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 2:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. We are just creating a mangle the identifies large downloads, connections over so much data. ----------------------------------------------------------- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of "Learn RouterOS" -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. The problem I see is that general web traffic = Netflix traffic (on a network level, it's all 80/tcp and HTTP). You can very easily create burst queues for 80/tcp. If you can some how mangle the traffic to/from Netflix you can easily create a queue for that too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>wrote: > sure, just match the data, you can either apply a TOS bit or just queue it > up right in that single unit .. The data has to flow though it though. > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer > WISPA Board Member - wispa.org > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services > WISPA Vendor Member > Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net > LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training > Author of "Learn RouterOS" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Joe Miller > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:00 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. > > Is there a way to have MikroTik do nothing else but this? > > Butch, can you answer this please? > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net> > To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 1:41:33 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. > > This works quite well, we use it on lots of hotspot networks, we can > identify streams by their amount of data transferred. Once we go over 10-20 > meg, we assume that's not that bursty traffic, so we lob it into a queue > with other users. THis prevents a large download from consuming massive > amounts of resources. > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer > WISPA Board Member - wispa.org > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services > WISPA Vendor Member > Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net > LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training > Author of "Learn RouterOS" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Gino Villarini > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 1:38 PM > To: Joe Miller; WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. > > We are currently testing a Mikrotik based QOS setting to handle this, it > basically examines port 80 traffic and divides in bursty short traffic (web > browsing) and long continued traffic ( file transfers, streaming, p2p) > > Gino A. Villarini > g...@aeronetpr.com > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. > 787.273.4143 > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Joe Miller > Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:33 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. > > I'm still having a hell of a time figuring out that one. Is there anything > on the market that will block certain traffic by looking at the Headers of > the data on Netflix? Or is this just wishful thinking on my part? > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Sales <sa...@michianawireless.com> > To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 1:28:03 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. > > So how are you to distinguish regular port 80 traffic from netflix ? > > John Buwa > Michiana Wireless,Inc > 574-233-7170 > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > > > Just confirmed with torch. > > > > Hulu on PC is 1935/tcp > > Netflix on PC is 80/tcp (remember it uses Silverlight - not flash) > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > > --- Albert Einstein > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Butch Evans <but...@butchevans.com> > > wrote: > > > >> On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 07:16 -0800, Joe Miller wrote: > >>> Has anyone experienced this yet? 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