> At 03:09 PM 11/12/2009, you wrote:
> >I've been watching the thread about it with great interest.    Partly
> >because I was wondering if anyone was going to try "my solution", which is,
> >to attempt to be able to deliver the bandwidth to the people who want to use
> >these, and have them work fine.
> >
> >Please understand, I'm not talking about a prioritizing scheme, which puts
> >video ahead of surfing, etc.

This is a good point.  The fact is, that a GOOD bandwidth manager will
allow traffic to flow as fast as possible.  One thing to bear in mind,
with regard to my QOS system, is that I don't speed limit ANYTHING.  I
simply prioritize traffic so that the time sensitive stuff gets out
first.  There is no reason to limit even P2P if there is available
bandwidth.  Every class that I give that covers QOS, I restate this one
maxim:  "QOS is not simply LIMITING bandwidth.  Rather, QOS is about
MANAGING the available bandwidth resources."  There is an important
distinction there that your comments don't take into account.

> >We're thinking about how we're going to meet the demands of the near
> >future... not managing a shortage of bandwidth delivery.  

Even with sufficient bandwidth available, there are links and network
infrastructure where a good QOS mechanism will benefit the network.  

> >I'm thinking of planning on a future delivery of 4 to 6 meg per customer,
> >oversubscribed to around 4 to 6 to one.

For many, 4:1 would mean out of business.  Even at 10:1, many would not
survive.  There are places in this country where bandwidth is still
quite expensive ($200/Meg would sound GOOD to some people).  Even at
that price, a 4:1 ratio is $50/customer before you add in ANY costs.
Even 10:1 is to high.  It would be NICE if the price for wholesale BW
came down, but too many folks do not have the benefit of reasonable
bandwidth.
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