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On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:06:37PM -0500, RickG wrote:
> Those old phone line units could only do 1Mbps.
> My question was: Can anyone show me reliable equipment that will do 100Mbps+
> on cat 3? Not according to this:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable or my experience. If such an
> animal exists, I could use it, which is why I asked.
> We may be in game of semantics here. Can you get 100Mbps? I suppose a short
> cable on the bench might do it but not in the field reliably. In my
> experience, in order to get a reliable connection over cat 3, I had to lock
> down the switch ports to 10Mbps. I would never claim to know it all but I've
> been around the block a time or two. The windings are to cancel out EMF
> which can cause errors that affect speed due to transmission retries. The
> speed capability of a cable is due to the quality of its wire rating -
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_5_cable and
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_6_cable
> Obviously, by utilizing more that 2 pair, you can do some interesting
> things.
> -RickG
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 12:58 AM, Robert West 
> <robert.w...@just-micro.com>wrote:
> 
> > Phone line is twisted pair and normally 2 pair.  Transmit and receive.  Can
> > easily do 100mbps.  You could even get it to do gigabit with not much
> > effort.  No PoE though, no pair for that. HOWEVER, the problems come from
> > the nasty connections everyone including the phone company has made.  Most
> > phone line isn't "clean" like a network cable you would run.  Who knows
> > where the hell the splices and rodent chewed ends are at and if they stick
> > with a common wiring scheme throughout the structure.  If it was the best
> > option, you could at least test and give up quickly if it fell on its face.
> >
> > There used to be some home networking nics that used the phone lines in the
> > home and you could also use the phones with the things connected.  That was
> > in the late 1990's, early 2000.  Some Gateway desktops came with them.  I
> > never saw them used though.
> >
> > Bob-
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> > Behalf Of RickG
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 12:02 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Cat3 instead of Cat5
> >
> > That would be great! But, I cant find anything on the net except references
> > to the standard being 10Mbps:
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_3_cable
> > Any examples?
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Kevin Neal <ke...@safelink.net> wrote:
> >
> > > With the right equipment I've heard of gigabit over rusted old barbwire!
> > >
> > > -Kevin
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 7:32 PM, RickG <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > 100Mbps on cat 3? Really?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 4:12 PM, Forbes Mercy
> > > > <forbes.me...@wabroadband.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> We currently run a Cat5 into the wall then put a jack into the house.
> > > >> My question is since you can get 100MB through a Cat3 which is the
> > same
> > > >> as a phone line why can't we run the connection into their phone line?
> > > >> Most of our customers have cell phone only and their internal wiring
> > is
> > > >> virtually unused.
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks,
> > > >> Forbes
> > > >>
> > > >>
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