George,

Glad to see it's not just us.  We put in some MT N links when 4 was still
beta.  It worked awesome.  Awesome.
Then, somehow, the units have found their way into the upgrade stream, and
performance sucks now.

After pulling our hair out trying to figure out the problem, we choked it up
to firmware.
Like I said, glad to see it's not just us.

We've already made the decision to more most of those to Rocket M links.
We'll see.

Jayson

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 8:35 AM, George Morris <ghmor...@candlelight.ca>wrote:

> I think the Rockets are going to be great, but right now today the best
> software is a beta version of 5.1. That pretty much says it all.
>
> We have pulled all our MikroTik N links back out. 4.0beta3 was pretty good,
> but N wireless performance and stability took a real nosedive with the
> release version of 4.0-4.2 IMHO.
>
> We are back on XR-5s with either 20 or 40MHz channels for backhaul and get
> a
> rock-solid 30-60Mbits as a result.
>
> I don't see moving to anything else until MT resolves their N driver
> issues,
> plus releases the new version of Nstreme that is compatible with N cards,
> or
> UBNT completes their M series firmware tuning.
>
> Not sure which will happen first, but with the AH series RouterBoards and
> XR-5s we are sitting pretty in the meantime.
>
> PS We think the AH boards are worth the extra money if you have to run
> Torch
> or the Bandwidth Tester for troubleshooting. Both tools run much better on
> the bigger processors, and the cost differential to get this extra
> performance is minimal for a major backhaul.
>
> George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Robert West
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:23 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
>
> At first I was like "huh? " but thinking of the now and present, the
> Rockets
> are new and the longevity has yet to be tested.  I have both UBNT and MT
> backhauls, love UBNT to no end but it's from the ease of use aspect.  My
> UBNT needs to be taken care of from time to time, the MT is just put up and
> forgotten about.  Sucks but that's how it is.  Not sure why that is, maybe
> Ubiquiti seems to always be pushing the envelope so logically they'll hit
> snags.  I'm a geek, I like the unknown so I put up with the snags but as
> Travis said in a roundabout way, if you want stability and something you
> don't want to worry about, go with the MT.  I'd go one further with his
> list
> though and use the R52N cards.
>
>
>
> Bob-
>
>
>
>
>
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:44 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
>
>
>
> I guess if you don't need a reliable, stable product, this is the answer.
> However, I have MT backhaul links that have been up solid for over 3 years
> now. No ethernet issues, no heat issues, no firmware issues.
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
> Jayson Baker wrote:
>
> (2) Rocket5M @ $90/ea
> (2) RocketDish @ $145/ea
>
> $470
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Travis Johnson  <mailto:t...@ida.net>
> <t...@ida.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>  I would agree. Except the 411ah is overkill.... in my testing, the regular
> 411 shows as much throughput as the 411ah. So, here's the list:
>
> 2 x RB411
> 2 x PacWireless 2ft dishes with radomes
> 2 x PacWireless enclosures
> 2 x wireless cards (XR5 would be my choice)
> 2 x pigtails
> 2 x LMR jumpers
> 2 x 18v PoE
>
> Total cost would be less than $900 and would do 30Mbps in a 20mhz channel
> (or 15Mbps in a 10mhz channel).
>
> Travis
> Microserv
>
>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> If spectrum is available you can use a 411ah pair and get 30 megs in
> 20mhz.  Like 500 bucks in gear...
>
> On 11/30/09, RickG  <mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com> <rgunder...@gmail.com>
> <mailto:rgunder...@gmail.com> <rgunder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>  Daniel, great questions!
>
> Throughput: As fast as possible :) Seriously, a couple of megs minimum.
> 10Mbps would be plenty.
> Dishes: As big as necessary. Naturally, on the tower I'll be limited by
> wind
> loading. The other end is a solid water tank but I imagine the water
> company
> wont like a 10' dish :)
> Budget: $10k including tower.
> Licensed or unlicensed. I'm open to either but my budget probably wont
> allow
> licensed.
> POE or?: No preference.
> Noise floor: On 2.4GHz, -97. On 5GHz, -94.
> Currently deploying: Ubiquiti CPE on Mikrotik AP's. Was Tranzeo's on
> WRAP/StarOS.
> Comfort level: I've got experience with almost everything mainstream.
>
> Thanks! -RickG
>
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:42 PM, 3-dB Networks  <mailto:wi...@3-db.net>
> <wi...@3-db.net>  <mailto:wi...@3-db.net> <wi...@3-db.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>  Depends...
>
> What type of throughput do you need?  What size dishes can you use?  What
> is
> the budget?  Licensed or Unlicensed?  PoE or some other configuration?
>  What
> does the noise floor look like?  What type of equipment do you already
> primarily use (i.e. what will you be the most comfortable deploying).
>
> My recommendation would be based on the answer to all of those questions.
>
> Daniel White
> 3-dB Networkshttp://www.3dbnetworks.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> <wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On
> Behalf Of RickG
> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:23 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: [WISPA] 20 mile link
>
> Planning my first 20 mile PTP link. Path analysis shows clear. Customer is
> building a 100' tower just for this therefore the equipment I choose must
> work. I'm free to use whatever I want. Suggestions?
> -RickG
>
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