Do you have any "cheat sheets" for any other versions?

thanks,
Randy


George Morris wrote:
> Longest was 30 miles, next longest was 23.
>
> George 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Randy Cosby
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 11:37 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
>
> What was the distance you guys were able to get on N with these?
>
> Randy
>
>
> George Morris wrote:
>   
>> We really like beta3. Had some links running 90 days, and it was fast!!
>>
>> Here is the cheat sheet specifically for beta3. Be careful if you are
>> running something else, the cheat sheet varied a lot.
>>
>> - No WDS
>> - Short preamble
>> - No Periodic calibration
>> - Nstreme on, but CSMA not disabled
>> - Nstreme best fit only
>> - Play with power levels until best results. Seems pretty picky on this.
>> - Be sure the RouterBoard firmware (not just RouterOS) is the correct
>> revision ( /system routerboard print and /system routerboard upgrade)
>>
>> George
>>
>>  
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Paul Hendry
>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 8:05 AM
>> To: wireless
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
>>
>> Nice. Anyone out there know which of the beta releases seemed most stable?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Chuck Hogg [mailto:[email protected]] 
>> Sent: 04 December 2009 13:01
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
>>
>> http://files.quicklinkwireless.com/mikrotik
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck Hogg
>> Shelby Broadband
>> 502-722-9292
>> [email protected]
>> http://www.shelbybb.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Paul Hendry
>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 7:26 AM
>> To: wireless
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
>>
>> We saw the same thing with Mikrotik + N. 4 AP's out there now running
>> 4.1 (best of a bad bunch) in the hope the next release sorts some of the
>> problems. I know this is a bit off topic but does anyone have the
>> v4.0beta releases anywhere?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: George Morris [mailto:[email protected]] 
>> Sent: 01 December 2009 15:35
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
>>
>> I think the Rockets are going to be great, but right now today the best
>> software is a beta version of 5.1. That pretty much says it all.
>>
>> We have pulled all our MikroTik N links back out. 4.0beta3 was pretty
>> good,
>> but N wireless performance and stability took a real nosedive with the
>> release version of 4.0-4.2 IMHO.
>>
>> We are back on XR-5s with either 20 or 40MHz channels for backhaul and
>> get a
>> rock-solid 30-60Mbits as a result.
>>
>> I don't see moving to anything else until MT resolves their N driver
>> issues,
>> plus releases the new version of Nstreme that is compatible with N
>> cards, or
>> UBNT completes their M series firmware tuning.
>>
>> Not sure which will happen first, but with the AH series RouterBoards
>> and
>> XR-5s we are sitting pretty in the meantime.
>>
>> PS We think the AH boards are worth the extra money if you have to run
>> Torch
>> or the Bandwidth Tester for troubleshooting. Both tools run much better
>> on
>> the bigger processors, and the cost differential to get this extra
>> performance is minimal for a major backhaul.
>>
>> George 
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Robert West
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:23 AM
>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
>>
>> At first I was like "huh? " but thinking of the now and present, the
>> Rockets
>> are new and the longevity has yet to be tested.  I have both UBNT and MT
>> backhauls, love UBNT to no end but it's from the ease of use aspect.  My
>> UBNT needs to be taken care of from time to time, the MT is just put up
>> and
>> forgotten about.  Sucks but that's how it is.  Not sure why that is,
>> maybe
>> Ubiquiti seems to always be pushing the envelope so logically they'll
>> hit
>> snags.  I'm a geek, I like the unknown so I put up with the snags but as
>> Travis said in a roundabout way, if you want stability and something you
>> don't want to worry about, go with the MT.  I'd go one further with his
>> list
>> though and use the R52N cards.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bob-
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>> Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 12:44 AM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 20 mile link
>>
>>  
>>
>> I guess if you don't need a reliable, stable product, this is the
>> answer.
>> However, I have MT backhaul links that have been up solid for over 3
>> years
>> now. No ethernet issues, no heat issues, no firmware issues.
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Jayson Baker wrote: 
>>
>> (2) Rocket5M @ $90/ea
>> (2) RocketDish @ $145/ea
>>  
>> $470
>>  
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:00 PM, Travis Johnson  <mailto:[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>  
>>   
>>
>>  I would agree. Except the 411ah is overkill.... in my testing, the
>> regular
>> 411 shows as much throughput as the 411ah. So, here's the list:
>>  
>> 2 x RB411
>> 2 x PacWireless 2ft dishes with radomes
>> 2 x PacWireless enclosures
>> 2 x wireless cards (XR5 would be my choice)
>> 2 x pigtails
>> 2 x LMR jumpers
>> 2 x 18v PoE
>>  
>> Total cost would be less than $900 and would do 30Mbps in a 20mhz
>> channel
>> (or 15Mbps in a 10mhz channel).
>>  
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>  
>>  
>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>  
>> If spectrum is available you can use a 411ah pair and get 30 megs in
>> 20mhz.  Like 500 bucks in gear...
>>  
>> On 11/30/09, RickG  <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>
>> <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>  
>>  
>>  Daniel, great questions!
>>  
>> Throughput: As fast as possible :) Seriously, a couple of megs minimum.
>> 10Mbps would be plenty.
>> Dishes: As big as necessary. Naturally, on the tower I'll be limited by
>> wind
>> loading. The other end is a solid water tank but I imagine the water
>> company
>> wont like a 10' dish :)
>> Budget: $10k including tower.
>> Licensed or unlicensed. I'm open to either but my budget probably wont
>> allow
>> licensed.
>> POE or?: No preference.
>> Noise floor: On 2.4GHz, -97. On 5GHz, -94.
>> Currently deploying: Ubiquiti CPE on Mikrotik AP's. Was Tranzeo's on
>> WRAP/StarOS.
>> Comfort level: I've got experience with almost everything mainstream.
>>  
>> Thanks! -RickG
>>  
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 10:42 PM, 3-dB Networks  <mailto:[email protected]>
>> <[email protected]>  <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  Depends...
>>  
>> What type of throughput do you need?  What size dishes can you use?
>> What
>> is
>> the budget?  Licensed or Unlicensed?  PoE or some other configuration?
>>  What
>> does the noise floor look like?  What type of equipment do you already
>> primarily use (i.e. what will you be the most comfortable deploying).
>>  
>> My recommendation would be based on the answer to all of those
>> questions.
>>  
>> Daniel White
>> 3-dB Networkshttp://www.3dbnetworks.com
>>  
>>  
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]
>> <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]>] On
>> Behalf Of RickG
>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 8:23 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: [WISPA] 20 mile link
>>  
>> Planning my first 20 mile PTP link. Path analysis shows clear. Customer
>> is
>> building a 100' tower just for this therefore the equipment I choose
>> must
>> work. I'm free to use whatever I want. Suggestions?
>> -RickG
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