just ping the DSL provider's DNS server.

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Data Technology
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] suggestions for dual wan dhcp auto fail over

Yes the dsl modem is handing out a dhcp address.  I figure I will have 
to ping way back upstream to check the connection vs just pinging the 
dhcp modem.
I was thinking that if I just change the distance value to a higher 
value then I could leave the interface up and nat should use the route 
with the lowest distance value. (not tested yet)
Then I could ping with a source address of the dsl interface and it 
should go out the dsl line even though the distance is set higher than 
the backup.  (not tested yet)

Dennis Burgess wrote:
> There are other things to also keep in mind when dealing with DHCP, i.e.
> is your DHCP being handed out locally.  sSo if you have a DSL line is
> the DSL modem handing this out?  if so, then watching that connection is
> useless, you will have to do some policy based routing and checks to
> verify that it is up and bring it down if it is not up.  
>
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> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
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> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:21 PM
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> Subject: Re: [WISPA] suggestions for dual wan dhcp auto fail over
>
> Lucky you, glad you could have 3.x everywhere!
>
> I could be wrong as it may just be my experience, but the command line
> for
> custom things is necessary as the GUI doesn't show everything.  I
> started
> with GUI and moved a lot to CLI as it seems easier/faster.  Hopefully
> it's
> simply a personal preference!
>
> There are places like wireless where the GUI is almost required as the
> CLI
> is difficult to navigate and may not even have some values.
>
> Josh Luthman
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> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> --- Albert Einstein
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Data Technology <w...@dtisp.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Yeah, when I looked at the article you listed it clicked.  I don't use
>> the command line except when I have to so I was a little off on the
>> command to change the distance setting.
>>
>> I have version 4.3 so that should not be a problem.
>> I've been using MT for several years but I have gotten past the 2.9.x.
>> I think oldest is 3.25.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>     
>>> First one is definitely not going to work.
>>>
>>> Second one is what you need =)
>>>
>>> Do keep in mind you need 3.11+.  If you're new to Mikrotik there is
>>>       
>> little
>>     
>>> reason to be concerned, but some users such as myself still have
>>>       
> 2.9.50
>   
>> or
>>     
>>> 51 stuff!
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>>> --- Albert Einstein
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Data Technology <w...@dtisp.com>
>>>       
> wrote:
>   
>>>       
>>>> Josh,
>>>> That is what I was trying to do but I was trying to use "/ip route
>>>>         
> set
>   
>>>> ether1 distance=3" instead of "/ip dhcp-client set ether1
>>>> default-route-distance=3".
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> LaRoy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> This might help you
>>>>> http://stfunoo.be/?p=268
>>>>>
>>>>> I like using route distance since 3.11 DHCP can do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> It has worked very well for me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
>>>>> --- Albert Einstein
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Data Technology <w...@dtisp.com>
>>>>>           
>> wrote:
>>     
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Sounds too easy :)  I'll give it a try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> LaRoy
>>>>>>
>>>>>> e...@wisp-router.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Just change the nat to use the other public ip since your
>>>>>>>               
> already
>   
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> masquerading just change that rule to src-nat and set the public
>>>>>>             
> ip to
>   
>>>>>> src-nat to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> /Eje
>>>>>>> ------Original Message------
>>>>>>> From: Data Technology
>>>>>>> Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>>>>> ReplyTo: WISPA General List
>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] suggestions for dual wan dhcp auto fail over
>>>>>>> Sent: Dec 1, 2009 15:30
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am trying to configure an rb450 v4.3 to connect to 2 different
>>>>>>> providers with dhcp using 1 as the primary and the other as a
>>>>>>>               
> backup.
>   
>>>>>>> I would like it to switch over to the backup if the primary
>>>>>>>               
> service
>   
>> is
>>     
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>> down.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> I want to nat local users to either service.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I assume I will need to use netwatch to check the servcie
>>>>>>>               
>> availability
>>     
>>>>>>> so I can check all the way thru the providers service and not
>>>>>>>               
> just
>   
>> the
>>     
>>>>>>> local physical connection.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The question is what do I need to do when the primary goes down?
>>>>>>> I thought I could just change the distance on the route but I
>>>>>>>               
> found
>   
>> out
>>     
>>>>>>> it will not let you change the distance if the default route is
>>>>>>>               
> set
>   
>> by
>>     
>>>>>>> the dhcp-client.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have looked at some of the examples on the wiki but they all
>>>>>>>               
> use
>   
>>>>>>> static ip address and I am wanting to use dhcp.
>>>>>>> Anyone have any pointers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LaRoy McCann
>>>>>>> Data Technology
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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