If you can specify source address for ping then do a policy route.

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On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Data Technology <w...@dtisp.com> wrote:

>
> Josh Luthman wrote:
> >> I was thinking that if I just change the distance value to a higher
> >>
> > value then I could leave the interface up and nat should use the route
> > with the lowest distance value. (not tested yet)
> >
> > That is how static routing works - it picks the lowest distance.  If you
> > have two routes identical except the distance, then the lower distance is
> > used.
> >
> >
> >> Then I could ping with a source address of the dsl interface and it
> >>
> > should go out the dsl line even though the distance is set higher than
> > the backup.  (not tested yet)
> >
> > I have always had one interface a static IP/route so this was easy.  Not
> > sure how to force a certain destination when it is using dhcp-client.
> >
> I know the netwatch will not work for this but I saw a script (inproved
> netwatch) that will use the ping command to check an ip address.  Ping
> has an option (that was broke until 3.28) to use "source-address".  I
> figure if it is using a source address of the dsl interface that went
> down it should try to ping out that interface instead of the one with
> the lowest distance.  This is my thinking of how this might work.
> Hopefully it will work this way.  I will know soon.
>
>
>
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> > --- Albert Einstein
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Data Technology <w...@dtisp.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Yes the dsl modem is handing out a dhcp address.  I figure I will have
> >> to ping way back upstream to check the connection vs just pinging the
> >> dhcp modem.
> >> I was thinking that if I just change the distance value to a higher
> >> value then I could leave the interface up and nat should use the route
> >> with the lowest distance value. (not tested yet)
> >> Then I could ping with a source address of the dsl interface and it
> >> should go out the dsl line even though the distance is set higher than
> >> the backup.  (not tested yet)
> >>
> >> Dennis Burgess wrote:
> >>
> >>> There are other things to also keep in mind when dealing with DHCP,
> i.e.
> >>> is your DHCP being handed out locally.  sSo if you have a DSL line is
> >>> the DSL modem handing this out?  if so, then watching that connection
> is
> >>> useless, you will have to do some policy based routing and checks to
> >>> verify that it is up and bring it down if it is not up.
> >>>
> >>> -----------------------------------------------------------
> >>> Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
> >>> WISPA Board Member - wispa.org
> >>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
> >>> WISPA Vendor Member
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> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On
> >>> Behalf Of Josh Luthman
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 4:21 PM
> >>> To: WISPA General List
> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] suggestions for dual wan dhcp auto fail over
> >>>
> >>> Lucky you, glad you could have 3.x everywhere!
> >>>
> >>> I could be wrong as it may just be my experience, but the command line
> >>> for
> >>> custom things is necessary as the GUI doesn't show everything.  I
> >>> started
> >>> with GUI and moved a lot to CLI as it seems easier/faster.  Hopefully
> >>> it's
> >>> simply a personal preference!
> >>>
> >>> There are places like wireless where the GUI is almost required as the
> >>> CLI
> >>> is difficult to navigate and may not even have some values.
> >>>
> >>> Josh Luthman
> >>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>> Suite 1337
> >>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>
> >>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> >>> --- Albert Einstein
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Data Technology <w...@dtisp.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Yeah, when I looked at the article you listed it clicked.  I don't use
> >>>> the command line except when I have to so I was a little off on the
> >>>> command to change the distance setting.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have version 4.3 so that should not be a problem.
> >>>> I've been using MT for several years but I have gotten past the 2.9.x.
> >>>> I think oldest is 3.25.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Josh Luthman wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> First one is definitely not going to work.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Second one is what you need =)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Do keep in mind you need 3.11+.  If you're new to Mikrotik there is
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> little
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> reason to be concerned, but some users such as myself still have
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> 2.9.50
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> or
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> 51 stuff!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Josh Luthman
> >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>>>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>>>> Suite 1337
> >>>>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> >>>>> --- Albert Einstein
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Data Technology <w...@dtisp.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>> Josh,
> >>>>>> That is what I was trying to do but I was trying to use "/ip route
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>> set
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>> ether1 distance=3" instead of "/ip dhcp-client set ether1
> >>>>>> default-route-distance=3".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>> LaRoy
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Josh Luthman wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This might help you
> >>>>>>> http://stfunoo.be/?p=268
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I like using route distance since 3.11 DHCP can do it.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It has worked very well for me.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman
> >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
> >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
> >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
> >>>>>>> Suite 1337
> >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources."
> >>>>>>> --- Albert Einstein
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Data Technology <w...@dtisp.com>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Sounds too easy :)  I'll give it a try.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>> LaRoy
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> e...@wisp-router.com wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Just change the nat to use the other public ip since your
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> already
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> masquerading just change that rule to src-nat and set the public
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>> ip to
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>> src-nat to.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> /Eje
> >>>>>>>>> ------Original Message------
> >>>>>>>>> From: Data Technology
> >>>>>>>>> Sender: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
> >>>>>>>>> To: WISPA General List
> >>>>>>>>> ReplyTo: WISPA General List
> >>>>>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] suggestions for dual wan dhcp auto fail over
> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Dec 1, 2009 15:30
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I am trying to configure an rb450 v4.3 to connect to 2 different
> >>>>>>>>> providers with dhcp using 1 as the primary and the other as a
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> backup.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> I would like it to switch over to the backup if the primary
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> service
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> is
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>> down.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I want to nat local users to either service.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I assume I will need to use netwatch to check the servcie
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>> availability
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> so I can check all the way thru the providers service and not
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> just
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> the
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> local physical connection.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The question is what do I need to do when the primary goes down?
> >>>>>>>>> I thought I could just change the distance on the route but I
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> found
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> out
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> it will not let you change the distance if the default route is
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> set
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> by
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> the dhcp-client.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I have looked at some of the examples on the wiki but they all
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>> use
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>>>>>> static ip address and I am wanting to use dhcp.
> >>>>>>>>> Anyone have any pointers?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> LaRoy McCann
> >>>>>>>>> Data Technology
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