No kidding. No profits no medical advancements. Where do people go when they seek the best doctors and health system in the world? America.
Brad -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 8:15 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance.... No, not that simple... On 12/7/09, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com> wrote: > Exactly. We are the one and only industrialized country (with whatever > industry we might have left) who puts "profit" in healthcare. As you > stated, their goal is to NOT pay and they can and do come up with anything > they can find to do that. > > Profit has no place in healthcare. Single payer is the only thing I see > working. As far as increased taxes to pay for it, we already are paying for > it and getting zero bang for our buck. As George from the great white north > said, healthcare shows up nowhere in his budget. They just pay extra in > taxes. > > Medicare for all. End of the controversy. Simple. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Tom Sharples > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 7:24 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance.... > > One of the basic probems IMO is that the whole idea of medical insurance, as > > currentlky implemented, is fundamentally flawed. Consider selling ISP > services under the model of "broadband insurance." Under that model, your > customer would pay you a certain amount per month in case he needs > broadband, and you would do your best to find reasons to deny him access. Or > > how about "housing insurance" instead of monthly rent. You pay the landlord > a certain amount every month in case you need shelter and he oversubscribes > a number of his units and hires guards to keep people out on various > pretexts. Sound completely ridiculous, yet unless you're in an HMO like > Kaiser that's the system we have now. > > What we need is universal (private or public) access to medical care, > healthy lifestyle incentives, and the elimination of stupid laws that only > serve to increase the costs of medical care and prescription drugs to US > consumers, restrict free-market access across state and international > lines,create incentives toward excess consumption and CYA medical pratices, > and only serve to increase the costs of medical care and prescription drugs > to US consumers. > > Tom S. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 4:06 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Insurance.... > > >> Someone posted earlier that the health insurance industry is not truly run >> in a "free market". It's "failure" is exactly due to this. Even after all >> the government rules and regulations, who in the USA does not have >> "access" >> to health care? >> >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 5:58 PM, David E. Smith <d...@mvn.net> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 16:42, MDK <rea...@muddyfrogwater.us> wrote: >>> >>> > The free market really does work. We use it daily in our business... >>> > Now >>> >>> imagine if we used it for health care, too. We know how to do that, >>> don't >>> > we? >>> >>> >>> There is a fundamental difference between broadband Internet and basic >>> medical care, and the fact that tens of millions of Americans have better >>> access to the former than the latter shows that in this instance the free >>> market has failed miserably. >>> >>> David Smith >>> MVN.net >>> >>> >>> >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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