Time Warner does offer an SLA on their "Business Class". It's worked in our
favor the three time its gone down in the 6 months that its been installed!
Considering that, our wireless has been running five 9s to our business
customers who chose us over the wired connections options. -RickG


On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Stuart Pierce <spie...@avolve.net> wrote:

> I'm not sure I agree either, but wireless obviously can't be cut. With that
> though, our fiber hasn't been out more than twice in 5 years.
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
> Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
> Date:  Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:15:16 -0600
>
> >I'm not sure that I agree that wireless has higher uptime than fiber.
> >
> >
> >-----
> >Mike Hammett
> >Intelligent Computing Solutions
> >http://www.ics-il.com
> >
> >
> >
> >--------------------------------------------------
> >From: "Tom DeReggi" <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>
> >Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 7:40 AM
> >To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> >Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to us
> >
> >> Agreed, Brett.
> >>
> >> I see people use business Cable all the time, UNTIL they have an outage,
> >> and then they loose all their customers feeding off it after that.
> >> If there is one Thing the Cable Cos understand it is "you didn't buy a
> >> service with an SLA because we dont offer one, so we can care less if
> you
> >> are down for a week, read the small print.".
> >> And what can you tell your subs once it occurred? "Oh I used a low cost
> >> Cable service, uh oh yeah why did I say we had better service than the
> >> Cable cos?"
> >>
> >> Plus, Wireless is more reliable from an uptime perspective, than any
> other
> >> technology (even Fiber), so why would a WISP want to use anything other
> >> than Wireless for connectivity to a tower?
> >>
> >> Well, it is true that some Business CAble services are less expensive
> than
> >> a single antenna roof right fee. But I used that arguement to negotiate
> >> lower roof right fees.
> >>
> >> Tom DeReggi
> >> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> >> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> >>
> >>
> >>  ----- Original Message -----
> >>  From: Bret Clark
> >>  To: WISPA General List
> >>  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 5:49 PM
> >>  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to
> us
> >>
> >>
> >>  Blah...I wouldn't rely on any telco or cable company to serve our
> towers.
> >> We are completely wireless between towers, even our upstream Internet
> >> links are wireless running to local Internet exchange points. That way
> if
> >> there is a problem we are responsible for it and we can fix it without
> >> getting the run around from a telco.
> >>
> >>  I was in the CLEC business for over 10 years and if there is one thing
> >> telco's do better than anyone else is finger point! It was never their
> >> problem until you provided beyond a shadow of a doubt it was their
> problem
> >> and 90% of the time is was their problem to begin with!
> >>
> >>  Bret
> >>
> >>  Tom Sharples wrote:
> >> I found out about so-called business DSL a few years ago. We had it here
> >> (Qwest), and every three to four weeks it would go belly-up. The "fix"
> was
> >> that, after a day or two of dead air, Qwest would send out a tech to
> >> power-cycle the ancient and creaky Nortel neighborhood dslam. This went
> on
> >> for a few months, until I switched to Comcast business-class cable. That
> >> has
> >> proven to be extremely reliable, and I haven't looked back since.
> >>
> >> Tom S.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com>
> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> >> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 1:41 PM
> >> Subject: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to us
> >>
> >>
> >>  I have a tower down.  It's fed by a *business* grade DSL link.
> >>
> >> Can't get to the main router at that local.
> >>
> >> So I log onto the Century Tel (century link nowadays) web site go find a
> >> phone number for tech support.
> >>
> >> IF there is a phone number on their Microsoft Bing cloan of a web site,
> I
> >> couldn't find it.  So, I decided to try the online chat thingy.
> >>
> >> Up pops a page with a spot for a the username, phone number and zip
> code.
> >> Naturally, I put the right things in the boxes.  Only to get an error.
>  So
> >> I
> >> tried again, and again.  Finally I actually READ what the smallish print
> >> said you can ONLY put in ONE of the fields, not all of them.  Hate to
> >> allow
> >> any answer to work rather than make people only fill in one field where
> >> they
> >> usually have to fill in all of them.  My fault for not reading the fine
> >> print, but then again, I shouldn't have to....
> >>
> >> Next, I finally get a tech on the screen.  Well, kinda, the web site
> >> doesn't
> >> have anything but an error at the top.  But the chat part eventually
> came
> >> up
> >> and a tech was on the line.  We quickly established that the tech
> support
> >> guy wasn't able to see if there was a dsl connection or not.  ug
> >>
> >> So, he gave me a phone number for tech support.
> >>
> >> I called that number only to sit on hold for a while (not toooo bad
> >> though)
> >> and then find out that that wasn't the right number for a business
> >> account.
> >>
> >> Called the next number.  Sat on hold a bit longer this time, but still
> >> only
> >> a few minutes.  We quickly got through all of the who are you type
> stuff.
> >> Then the gal on the support end asked me to tell her what lights were on
> >> on
> >> the modem.  "Um, I'm an hour and a half form there."  "Well, sir, I'm
> >> unable
> >> help you unless someone is on at the site."
> >>
> >> Sigh.  The home owner at this site is a snow bird and won't be home for
> >> months yet.
> >>
> >> The tech support people aren't able to tell if there is a connection or
> >> not.
> >> It's not like this is a little, rinky dink company like mine.  This is a
> >> HUGE telco!  Ug.
> >>
> >> They won't even try to fix a business account that I pay $1200.00 per
> year
> >> for.  Probably even more than that.  Amazing.
> >>
> >> Have a great day, I know I will.
> >> marlon
> >>
> >>
> >>
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