I'm not sure I agree either, but wireless obviously can't be cut. With that 
though, our fiber hasn't been out more than twice in 5 years.

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Mike Hammett" <wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
Reply-To: WISPA General List <wireless@wispa.org>
Date:  Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:15:16 -0600

>I'm not sure that I agree that wireless has higher uptime than fiber.
>
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>Intelligent Computing Solutions
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>From: "Tom DeReggi" <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>
>Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 7:40 AM
>To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to us
>
>> Agreed, Brett.
>>
>> I see people use business Cable all the time, UNTIL they have an outage, 
>> and then they loose all their customers feeding off it after that.
>> If there is one Thing the Cable Cos understand it is "you didn't buy a 
>> service with an SLA because we dont offer one, so we can care less if you 
>> are down for a week, read the small print.".
>> And what can you tell your subs once it occurred? "Oh I used a low cost 
>> Cable service, uh oh yeah why did I say we had better service than the 
>> Cable cos?"
>>
>> Plus, Wireless is more reliable from an uptime perspective, than any other 
>> technology (even Fiber), so why would a WISP want to use anything other 
>> than Wireless for connectivity to a tower?
>>
>> Well, it is true that some Business CAble services are less expensive than 
>> a single antenna roof right fee. But I used that arguement to negotiate 
>> lower roof right fees.
>>
>> Tom DeReggi
>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>
>>
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: Bret Clark
>>  To: WISPA General List
>>  Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 5:49 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to us
>>
>>
>>  Blah...I wouldn't rely on any telco or cable company to serve our towers. 
>> We are completely wireless between towers, even our upstream Internet 
>> links are wireless running to local Internet exchange points. That way if 
>> there is a problem we are responsible for it and we can fix it without 
>> getting the run around from a telco.
>>
>>  I was in the CLEC business for over 10 years and if there is one thing 
>> telco's do better than anyone else is finger point! It was never their 
>> problem until you provided beyond a shadow of a doubt it was their problem 
>> and 90% of the time is was their problem to begin with!
>>
>>  Bret
>>
>>  Tom Sharples wrote:
>> I found out about so-called business DSL a few years ago. We had it here
>> (Qwest), and every three to four weeks it would go belly-up. The "fix" was
>> that, after a day or two of dead air, Qwest would send out a tech to
>> power-cycle the ancient and creaky Nortel neighborhood dslam. This went on
>> for a few months, until I switched to Comcast business-class cable. That 
>> has
>> proven to be extremely reliable, and I haven't looked back since.
>>
>> Tom S.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <o...@odessaoffice.com>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 1:41 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] Why the telco's will never be true competitors to us
>>
>>
>>  I have a tower down.  It's fed by a *business* grade DSL link.
>>
>> Can't get to the main router at that local.
>>
>> So I log onto the Century Tel (century link nowadays) web site go find a
>> phone number for tech support.
>>
>> IF there is a phone number on their Microsoft Bing cloan of a web site, I
>> couldn't find it.  So, I decided to try the online chat thingy.
>>
>> Up pops a page with a spot for a the username, phone number and zip code.
>> Naturally, I put the right things in the boxes.  Only to get an error.  So
>> I
>> tried again, and again.  Finally I actually READ what the smallish print
>> said you can ONLY put in ONE of the fields, not all of them.  Hate to
>> allow
>> any answer to work rather than make people only fill in one field where
>> they
>> usually have to fill in all of them.  My fault for not reading the fine
>> print, but then again, I shouldn't have to....
>>
>> Next, I finally get a tech on the screen.  Well, kinda, the web site
>> doesn't
>> have anything but an error at the top.  But the chat part eventually came
>> up
>> and a tech was on the line.  We quickly established that the tech support
>> guy wasn't able to see if there was a dsl connection or not.  ug
>>
>> So, he gave me a phone number for tech support.
>>
>> I called that number only to sit on hold for a while (not toooo bad
>> though)
>> and then find out that that wasn't the right number for a business
>> account.
>>
>> Called the next number.  Sat on hold a bit longer this time, but still
>> only
>> a few minutes.  We quickly got through all of the who are you type stuff.
>> Then the gal on the support end asked me to tell her what lights were on
>> on
>> the modem.  "Um, I'm an hour and a half form there."  "Well, sir, I'm
>> unable
>> help you unless someone is on at the site."
>>
>> Sigh.  The home owner at this site is a snow bird and won't be home for
>> months yet.
>>
>> The tech support people aren't able to tell if there is a connection or
>> not.
>> It's not like this is a little, rinky dink company like mine.  This is a
>> HUGE telco!  Ug.
>>
>> They won't even try to fix a business account that I pay $1200.00 per year
>> for.  Probably even more than that.  Amazing.
>>
>> Have a great day, I know I will.
>> marlon
>>
>>
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