Right. We loose a few customers now and again because of it. But those customers have a higher cost than income so what else does a guy do?
There are two things you want to do when in business right? Turn a profit. Make sure that your competitor doesn't. Off loading the high cost or high trouble customers does both. marlon ----- Original Message ----- From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] How to block p2p traffic in public Wi-Fi hotspot? > OK, so your finding most wont or dont do it since they know they'll have > to > pay for the bandwidth? > -RickG > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Marlon K. Schafer > <o...@odessaoffice.com>wrote: > >> By stopping it before it starts.... People here know what it'll do to >> their >> bill. >> >> Sometimes it happens anyway. Usually people don't know it's happening. >> >> When we catch someone in the act we call them as soon as we can and see >> what >> they are up to. If it's just a big download we let it go and people just >> have to understand that that's going to happen from time to time. Just >> like >> busy signals used to happen sometimes. >> >> If we can't get ahold of them to get them to stop or justify it, we leave >> a >> message on the phone and block them till they call. >> >> Better to piss off one customer than 40... >> >> marlon >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> >> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 10:24 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] How to block p2p traffic in public Wi-Fi hotspot? >> >> >> > Marlon, as you know I've been a proponent of usage based billing since >> > I've >> > been in broadband. But, whether you bill for it or not, PTP still eats >> > up >> > the AP to the point it slows it down for everyone. How do you get >> > around >> > that? >> > -RickG >> > >> > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Marlon K. Schafer >> > <o...@odessaoffice.com>wrote: >> > >> >> Hiya Roman, >> >> >> >> We bill per bit. That way we don't care what the customer is doing, >> >> all >> >> we're worried about is how much they uses. Run edonkey and you'll get >> an >> >> extra bill. Download Netflix and you'll get an extra bill etc. >> >> >> >> MOST of the time we catch virus's for our customers. It's actually a >> >> pretty >> >> good sales tool. Netflix is changing that somewhat though. >> >> marlon >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Roman" <consulttele...@gmail.com> >> >> To: <wireless@wispa.org> >> >> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 3:34 AM >> >> Subject: [WISPA] How to block p2p traffic in public Wi-Fi hotspot? >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear readers, >> >> > >> >> > Do you have any experience with successful blocking of P2P (eDonkey, >> >> > Torrents etc.) traffic in your wireless networks? >> >> > >> >> > Any user who uses torrent client at his PC can effectively consume a >> >> > lot >> >> > of >> >> > bandwidth of Wi-Fi access point, leaving other honest users with >> >> > small >> >> > portion of throughput. Port blocking does not help because nowadays >> P2P >> >> > clients use random ports, encryption and other means to hide traffic >> >> > patterns. I suppose that only one distinctive feature of such >> >> > traffic >> >> > exists: its ability to consume effective bandwidth. >> >> > >> >> > Do you happen to know or use any traffic shaping tools which can >> >> > limit >> >> > throughput per user? >> >> > Thank you in advance for any thoghts, ideas etc... >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >> >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >> >> > >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > >> >> > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >> >> > >> >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >> >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> > >> >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> WISPA Wants You! 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