Correct. I've been reading over the manuals Tom was good enough to send me. Thanks again Tom!
These particular radios are only 50MB and the application is for a client looking for an alternate path from their existing 45MB DS3. In this case we're good with a 100MB cable limitation. Whenever their DS3 agreement expires we'll propose a 100MB+ circuit and likely remove the DragonWave gear for new Trango gear. It appears the Air-Pair radios will auto adjust for IF cable losses. I'm considering running 100-150' of LMR400 between the outdoor IDU and ODU on our side to eliminate us needing to source a second proprietary cable. Does anyone that has deployed DragonWave Air-Pair radios see that as a problem? Thanks! Brad -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Randy Cosby Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2010 12:38 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... Brad, I had one thought last night I hadn't considered before. My unit is a 100Mbps unit, so Cat5e POE was workable. At 200Mbps, you'll need GigE I assume. This will require all 4 pairs for data. You'd need more cable for power. At worst you'll need two separate cables, but it's still workable. Randy On 2/18/2010 11:25 AM, Brad Belton wrote: > Before I decide on trying Randy's idea, is there anyone that happens to have > a DragonWave Air-Pair outdoor cable they're willing to part with? > > It looks like Tessco and Hutton are special order only. If anyone has a > cable they are willing to sell let me know. I think we've got one cable > that is long enough for one side, but I need another cable for the other > side. > > Thanks! > > > > Brad Belton > BelWave Communications > O: 817-737-3124 #101 > F: 817-336-7031 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Randy Cosby > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:36 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and feedback... > > We don't have it up yet (another long story - but we won't buy another > used Dragonwave on Ebay), but they will be pretty short runs. I would > think you should be able to get up to 300ft without a problem. > > Randy > > > On 2/16/2010 12:33 PM, Brad Belton wrote: > >> Hello Randy, >> >> Ha! Very interesting. How long were your Ethernet cable runs on each >> > side > >> of the link? At what power level do you have the radios set to? >> >> Another idea we had was to run the LMR400 cable from the ODU all the way >> inside to the outdoor designed IDU. This would limit the length of the >> proprietary cables to a minimum. The question I have if we do this is: >> Will the outdoor IDU be able to power& operate the ODU over the 50'-200' >> > of > >> LMR400 we may need rather than the 3'-4' of LMR400 it was intended to do? >> >> Thanks for the feedback! >> >> Best, >> >> >> Brad >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Randy Cosby >> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 10:32 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and >> > feedback... > >> Since your unit is out of warranty anyway... >> >> If you open the unit up, you will find that there is an ethernet port >> inside it, as well as a power port, connected to that proprietary plug. >> We replaced that with a Pacific Wireless RJ45 ethernet connector system >> - http://www.streakwave.com/mmSWAVE1/Video/RJ45-ECS_datasheet-v2.pdf >> and peeled the power off that. We were then able to push power + >> ethernet up on one cable. >> >> >> >> On 2/16/2010 6:31 AM, Brad Belton wrote: >> >> >>> Hello Kristian, >>> >>> Those connectors are similar to what the Trango Apex uses that are too >>> >>> >> small >> >> >>> for an armored outdoor CAT5 cable. It's a shame the product engineers >>> >>> >> some >> >> >>> manufacturers use/have to design their products are so imperceptive of >>> >>> >> basic >> >> >>> field requirements. >>> >>> The inherited DragonWave AirPair radios that we're contemplating using on >>> >>> >> a >> >> >>> job have the proprietary round DIN style plug attached to a custom >>> DragonWave bundled cable. It looks like Hutton and Tessco have these >>> >>> >> custom >> >> >>> cables in a variety of lengths, but what a pain in the tail! >>> >>> Thanks for the information. I've got some more reading to do before we >>> decide on deploying these radios or just to punt them on EBay. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> >>> Brad >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>> Behalf Of Kristian Hoffmann >>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 6:34 PM >>> To: WISPA General List >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Looking for DragonWave Air-Pair cables and >>> >>> >> feedback... >> >> >>> On Mon, 2010-02-15 at 12:32 -0600, Brad Belton wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> We've inherited a DragonWave Air-Pair radio set and I'm looking for any >>>> feedback from those that have deployed these. The good, bad and ugly. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> We have a few Horizon Compact links. They've done very well except for >>> when we get weird high/low pressure systems that result in a layer of >>> fog in our valley that sits at about ~150ft. The DW engineer called the >>> effect ducting. We enabled AAM in an attempt to counter the affects, >>> but the AAM code was apparently buggy in the version we had. So instead >>> of stabilizing the link, it made it much, much worse. So make sure you >>> get the latest firmware if you can. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> We'll probably need new cable sets for each end as well, so to any >>>> DragonWave vendors on the list please feel free to send me an email with >>>> prices on cable length options. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> The Horizon Compact units have unfriendly ethernet connectors as well. >>> Something along the lines of this... >>> >>> http://www.connecticc.com/default.aspx?page=item% >>> 20detail&itemcode=JTRJ45-12NXL >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> I sure hope their new Horizon radios don't require these BS proprietary >>>> cables like the Air-Pair radios. What a pain in the tail... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -Kristian >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >>> ---- >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ >>> >>> >>> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> >>> ---- >>> >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org >>> >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> ---- >> >> >>> WISPA Wants You! 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