What UBNT has shown is that one can go inexpensive alternatives and make them good products. The equivalent in WiMAX is PureWave Networks; their base station can do MIMO and beamforming and doesn't require an ASN-GW, which was the higher CAPEX for a small 802.16e deployment until they came along.
Being 16e means you can have 10 MHz channels (best there is in the WiMAX world before 20 MHz 16m), MIMO, beamforming and can buy all those cheap asian CPEs instead of the vendor lock-in that happens in 16d. http://www.purewavenetworks.com Rubens On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Patrick Leary <ple...@apertonet.com> wrote: > 802.11 and its MIMO costs are not relevant to WiMAX and its MIMO costs. > > > Patrick Leary > Aperto Networks > 813.426.4230 mobile > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 9:17 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz WiMAX deal > > Regular MIMO doesn't have to be expensive, UBNT has proven that. More > complicated forms of diversity, well, that remains to be seen. > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Patrick Leary" <ple...@apertonet.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:04 AM > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz WiMAX deal > >> Indeed MIMO does help through trees according to people I trust, but >> again we default to the "but at what cost" question. We believe this > to >> be especially true in more rural deployments. >> >> >> Patrick Leary >> Aperto Networks >> 813.426.4230 mobile >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] > On >> Behalf Of Jeremie Chism >> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 7:52 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz WiMAX deal >> >> Subchannelization should help penetration a little also. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Mar 18, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Matt <lm7...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Do you support PPPoE in the SM? Heard that MIMO helps tree >>> penetration. >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> >>>> Yes, but you won't pay $200 for their CPE complete and our base >>>> station costs are less or similar and we are getting much better >>>> uplink speed according to what I have seen so far from reports about >>>> the Moto 320 so far. >>>> >>>> >>>> Patrick Leary >>>> Aperto Networks >>>> 813.426.4230 mobile >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless- > boun...@wispa.org] >> >>>> On Behalf Of Jeremie Chism >>>> Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 7:30 AM >>>> To: WISPA General List >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] 3.65 GHz WiMAX deal >>>> >>>> I think the new motorola is mimo. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Mar 18, 2010, at 9:29 AM, Matt <lm7...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> We don't know about you, but we at California-based Aperto > Networks >> >>>>>> are tired of waiting for stimulus dollars to trickle into the WISP >>>>>> business, so we are taking matters into our own hands. So Aperto >>>>>> Networks -- the >>>>>> 802.16 pioneer and WiMAX leader -- is excited to offer the 3.65 > and >> >>>>>> 5 >>>> >>>>>> GHz carrier class and commercial grade (not the residential CPE) >>>>>> PM320 PacketMAX CPE for only $199 each to the WISP. Effective >>>>>> immediately, the price applies to all N type CPE in either band > and >>>>>> 17 dbi integrated >>>>>> (3.65 GHz) and 20 dBi (5 GHz). 5 GHz with integrated 21 dBi and >>>>>> 3.65 GHz >>>>>> with integrated 20 dBi are $220 to the WISP. There are no packs > and >> >>>>>> no minimum quantities to get this price -- buy even just one, same >>>>>> price. >>>>> >>>>> Is there 3.65 stuff MIMO? >>>>> >>>>> Matt >>> >>> >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> --- >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> WISPA Wants You! 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