Marlon: I am very interested in your "no more taping" bulkhead connector. Do you mean on the NEMA box? What do you use?
Friendly Regards, Mike -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:36 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] New WISP That's way more than $400 for a repeater site. I don't pay monthly rent of most of them either, but it still costs to build one. Good water tight box, $200+. Coax, $1 per foot or so. $12 each for connectors (unless you buy the cheap junky ones then it's still $4 to $6 each). MT 433 AH board, $100ish XR2 card $100 ish Pigtail, $15 to $25 Bulkhead connector (NO more untaping connectors just to install a new radio!!!!) $15 to $25 for the good ones with the o-ring and stainless construction. Battery backup $100+ Ethernet switch $50 to $100 Backhaul to the tower, $200+ Any electrical wiring to be done? $$$ I guess if you use the cheapest of the cheap gear you could get the cost of a repeater below $800 or $1000 but you'll soon find yourself working a lot harder than you should to keep it running right. Been there done that. As I've said before, 1001 ways to depelt that feline. Marlon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] New WISP All of my repeater sites have 0 infrastructure cost. I'm using a TV tower, grain leg, etc. This means the only additional cost is a NEMA box, cheap battery, mt box and omni. Roughly $400. If I get one customer at 35/mo it takes a year for ROI. Two customers six months, etc. I typically charge 45/mo and get 3 people a day after the AP is up. Looking at my third screen I've three repeater sites (at least) with only three subs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts." --- Winston Churchill On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Marlon K. Schafer <o...@odessaoffice.com>wrote: > 15 per ap? Man I WISH I could do that out here! > > I barely break even on a site at 15 subs. (I really hate the sites with 3 > to 5 subs on them :-( ). > > I think my highest site is up to 76 subs or so. Got a couple of them like > that. They are certainly feeling the strain but we're out of channels in > 2.4. > > For the busier sites I've started to install 5.8 gig systems over the top > of > the 2.4 and charge a little more for it. So far people would still rather > go with the cheaper stuff even though it's much less consistent in it's > performance. > > For one site I have finally broken down and just install the 5.8 and sell > it > at the same price as the 2.4 just so that I can get people moved. > > Now if I could just get more/cheaper backhaul out here. > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 5:59 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] New WISP > > > Several little repeater sites I have are Mikrotik APs and Ubiquiti CPEs. > No > more then 15 stations on each AP off the top of my head. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue > that counts." > --- Winston Churchill > > > On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote: > > > Hi Liam: > > > > We are a WISPA Vendor and the largest WISP in KY (just an hour or so > > away from you). > > > > I'm not exactly sure what you are after, but I am guessing it is the > > billing software? We have decided to use Platypus from Tucows after > > many issues with our homegrown alternative. We are in the > > implementation phase, so we'll let you know how that goes. > > > > We have extensive knowledge and have used Trango, Ubiquiti, MikroTik, > > Tranzeo, and Motorola Canopy. Hands down, Motorola Canopy handles the > > most clients with the best throughput. Ubiquiti and MikroTik are a > > somewhat cheaper alternative, but work well in low-sub count situations. > > > > Feel free to give DJ a call, 800-405-9865 and he can guide you in the > > right direction. > > > > Regards, > > Chuck Hogg > > Shelby Broadband > > 502-722-9292 > > ch...@shelbybb.com > > http://www.shelbybb.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of Liam Cummings > > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 5:50 PM > > To: wireless@wispa.org > > Subject: [WISPA] New WISP > > > > Hi all, > > > > We are a technologies solutions company located in Cincinnati and trying > > to become a WISP. 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