I'm the exact opposite, I prefer the ECS (the one with the RJ-45) and hate the pass-through one.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com On 4/30/2010 8:59 AM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: > I do have to tape the outside connections Mike. > > But instead of running a pigtail with a bulkhead connector I run an n-f/f > bulkhead connector and n-m pigtials. Gotta tape up the antenna connection > ONCE. After that, if you change out the radios etc. and need a different > pigtail just unscrew the pigtail and your golden. > > I also run boxes quite a bit bigger than I need. 1'x1'x2" or so. That way > I've got a lot of room to move things around, use different boards etc. My > *plan* is to not have to change out the boxes anymore. > > One of the nicest things I've found in a long time is the Pac Wireless > pass-through ethernet grip tight. Not the goofy one that requires a > screwdriver or little kid to release the tab on the connector. The one that > allows the whole cat5 cable to fit through with the connector already on it. > Very nice design. > > Lastly I've been REALLY happy with the Shireen double insulated cat5 with > no gel. Instead of a gel it has a paperish wrapping around the wires that > somehow expands and seals things when /if it gets wet. This cable is a LOT > easier to deal with than the old fashioned grease filled ones! > > laters, > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike"<m...@aweiowa.com> > To: "'WISPA General List'"<wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:46 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] New WISP > > > >> Marlon: >> >> I am very interested in your "no more taping" bulkhead connector. Do you >> mean on the NEMA box? What do you use? >> >> Friendly Regards, >> >> Mike >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >> Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer >> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:36 AM >> To: WISPA General List >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] New WISP >> >> That's way more than $400 for a repeater site. >> >> I don't pay monthly rent of most of them either, but it still costs to >> build >> >> one. >> >> Good water tight box, $200+. >> >> Coax, $1 per foot or so. $12 each for connectors (unless you buy the >> cheap >> junky ones then it's still $4 to $6 each). >> >> MT 433 AH board, $100ish >> >> XR2 card $100 ish >> >> Pigtail, $15 to $25 >> >> Bulkhead connector (NO more untaping connectors just to install a new >> radio!!!!) $15 to $25 for the good ones with the o-ring and stainless >> construction. >> >> Battery backup $100+ >> >> Ethernet switch $50 to $100 >> >> Backhaul to the tower, $200+ >> >> Any electrical wiring to be done? $$$ >> >> I guess if you use the cheapest of the cheap gear you could get the cost >> of >> a repeater below $800 or $1000 but you'll soon find yourself working a lot >> harder than you should to keep it running right. Been there done that. >> >> As I've said before, 1001 ways to depelt that feline. >> Marlon >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Josh Luthman"<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:19 AM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] New WISP >> >> >> All of my repeater sites have 0 infrastructure cost. I'm using a TV >> tower, >> grain leg, etc. This means the only additional cost is a NEMA box, cheap >> battery, mt box and omni. Roughly $400. If I get one customer at 35/mo >> it >> takes a year for ROI. Two customers six months, etc. I typically charge >> 45/mo and get 3 people a day after the AP is up. Looking at my third >> screen >> I've three repeater sites (at least) with only three subs. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue >> that counts." >> --- Winston Churchill >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Marlon K. Schafer >> <o...@odessaoffice.com>wrote: >> >> >>> 15 per ap? Man I WISH I could do that out here! >>> >>> I barely break even on a site at 15 subs. (I really hate the sites with >>> 3 >>> to 5 subs on them :-( ). >>> >>> I think my highest site is up to 76 subs or so. Got a couple of them >>> like >>> that. They are certainly feeling the strain but we're out of channels in >>> 2.4. >>> >>> For the busier sites I've started to install 5.8 gig systems over the top >>> of >>> the 2.4 and charge a little more for it. So far people would still >>> rather >>> go with the cheaper stuff even though it's much less consistent in it's >>> performance. >>> >>> For one site I have finally broken down and just install the 5.8 and sell >>> it >>> at the same price as the 2.4 just so that I can get people moved. >>> >>> Now if I could just get more/cheaper backhaul out here. >>> marlon >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Josh Luthman"<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>> To: "WISPA General List"<wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 5:59 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] New WISP >>> >>> >>> Several little repeater sites I have are Mikrotik APs and Ubiquiti CPEs. >>> No >>> more then 15 stations on each AP off the top of my head. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>> continue >>> that counts." >>> --- Winston Churchill >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Chuck Hogg<ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Hi Liam: >>>> >>>> We are a WISPA Vendor and the largest WISP in KY (just an hour or so >>>> away from you). >>>> >>>> I'm not exactly sure what you are after, but I am guessing it is the >>>> billing software? We have decided to use Platypus from Tucows after >>>> many issues with our homegrown alternative. We are in the >>>> implementation phase, so we'll let you know how that goes. >>>> >>>> We have extensive knowledge and have used Trango, Ubiquiti, MikroTik, >>>> Tranzeo, and Motorola Canopy. Hands down, Motorola Canopy handles the >>>> most clients with the best throughput. Ubiquiti and MikroTik are a >>>> somewhat cheaper alternative, but work well in low-sub count >>>> situations. >>>> >>>> Feel free to give DJ a call, 800-405-9865 and he can guide you in the >>>> right direction. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Chuck Hogg >>>> Shelby Broadband >>>> 502-722-9292 >>>> ch...@shelbybb.com >>>> http://www.shelbybb.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On >>>> Behalf Of Liam Cummings >>>> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 5:50 PM >>>> To: wireless@wispa.org >>>> Subject: [WISPA] New WISP >>>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> We are a technologies solutions company located in Cincinnati and >>>> trying >>>> to become a WISP. 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